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|fam3=[[w:North Germanic|North Germanic]]
|fam3=[[w:North Germanic|North Germanic]]
|fam4=[[w:West Scandinavian|West Scandinavian]]
|fam4=[[w:West Scandinavian|West Scandinavian]]
|fam5=Gaelo-Nordic<sup>?</sup>
|script1=Runr
|script1=Runr
|script2=Latn
|script2=Latn
|ancestor=[[w:Old Norse language|Old Norse]]
|ancestor=[[w:Old Norse language|Old Norse]]
|ancestor2=[[w:Old West Norse|Old West Norse]]
|ancestor2=[[w:Old West Norse|Old West Norse]]
|ancestor3=[[Sudrey Norse]]
|ancestor4=[[Scots Norse]]
|creator=[[User:Melinoë|Melinoë]]
|creator=[[User:Melinoë|Melinoë]]
|created=April 3rd, 2026
|created=April 3rd, 2026
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'''Scots Norse''' (Also ''Sodor Norse''; [[w:endonym|endonym]]: ''{{lang|snon|Sudhraèscc}}''; /sˠʌ.ˈreskʰ/) is a West Nordic language, making it closer to Icelandic and Faroese than Swedish or Danish. It is natively spoken throughout [[w:Suðreyjar|Suðreyjar]], being the dominant language of the isles. It has recieved heavy influence from Scots Gaelic over the last several centuries, contributing heavily to the spelling conventions of the language, and likely being the primary pushing force behind the development of the broad/slender distinction in Scots Norse (see "-sce" /ʃcʰ/ vs "-scc" /skʰ/)
'''Scots Norse''' (Also ''Sodor Norse''; [[w:endonym|endonym]]: ''{{lang|snon|Sudhraèscc}}''; /sˠʌ.ˈreskʰ/) is a West Nordic language, making it closer to Icelandic and Faroese than Swedish or Danish. It is natively spoken throughout [[w:Suðreyjar|Suðreyjar]], being the dominant language of the isles. It has recieved heavy influence from Scots Gaelic over the last several centuries, contributing heavily to the spelling conventions of the language, and likely being the primary pushing force behind the development of the broad/slender distinction in Scots Norse (see "-sce" /ʃcʰ/ vs "-scc" /skʰ/)


Scots Norse is typically split into two main dialect groups, Inner and Outer, corresponding to the Inner and Outer Hebrides, these are further divided into North and South for both, with a Central division for Inner. These dialects are almost entirely mutually intelligible within their groups, and mostly so even between the groups. Uniting all of these is the standardized form, ''Hàsudhrø̀sk'', literally meaning "High Scots Norse". ("high" as in "exalted")
Scots Norse is typically split into two main dialect groups, Inner and Outer, corresponding to the Inner and Outer Hebrides, these are further divided into North and South for both, with a Central division for Inner. These dialects are almost entirely mutually intelligible within their groups, and mostly so even between the groups. Uniting all of these is the standardized form, ''{{lang|snon|Hàsudhraèscc}}'', literally meaning "High Scots Norse". ("high" as in "exalted")
 
Scots Norse is hard to classify type-wise, as it shows signs of creolization, but not to the extent where it could typically be classed as a creole, this leads to the branching from Insular West Norse into so-called "Gaelo-Nordic", characterized by the partial creolization of Old West Norse with Middle Irish and Scots Gaelic. Regardless how it is classed, Scots Norse is with no doubt some kind of mixed language.
==History==
==History==
===Pre-Modern===
===Pre-Modern===
Scots Norse originates in the mid to late 13th century, around the time Suðreyjar was handed over to Scotland with the Treaty of Perth. Though the language would continue to be largely unchanged from the Old Norse of the 12th century, 1266AD is often used as a dividing date between Old Norse and the earliest forms of Scots Norse. While 1266 is a relatively arbitrary date, it serves its purpose as a convenient divide between two stages, as following the Treaty of Perth, the Hebrides would gain a much larger population of Gaelic and English speakers (At this point still Middle Irish and Middle English), and from roughly 1450AD onward, Scots Norse would be increasingly influenced by Scots Gaelic and, to a lesser extent, Scots.
Scots Norse originates in the mid to late 13th century, around the time Suðreyjar was handed over to Scotland with the Treaty of Perth. Though the language would continue to be largely unchanged from the Old Norse of the 12th century, 1266AD is often used as a dividing date between Old Norse and the earliest forms of Scots Norse. While 1266 is a relatively arbitrary date, it serves its purpose as a convenient divide between two stages, as following the Treaty of Perth, the Hebrides would gain a much larger population of Gaelic and English speakers (At this point still Middle Irish and Middle English), and from roughly 1450AD onward, Scots Norse would be increasingly influenced by Scots Gaelic and, to a lesser extent, Scots.


Having been spoken throughout Suðreyjar, Scots Norse had a dialect within the Isle of Mann (Scots Norse {{l|snon|monaèir}} /mɒ.ˈnei̯θ͇/). Little is known about Manx Norse ({{l|snon|monaèsk}}), as it is very poorly recorded, the most extensive description being a short document from around 1500AD that contains a list of about 150 words, with a very poor description of the pronunciations. Though from this description we can gather that Manx Norse still had the dental fricatives that had been lost in other dialects (merging with t/d), we get this from the description "... these [th and dh] are like that of the Saxons' beloved þ or the Scots' [Gaels'] sounds of the same staves [=letters]."
Having been spoken throughout Suðreyjar, Scots Norse had a dialect within the Isle of Mann (Scots Norse {{lang|snon|{{term|monaèir}}}} /mɒ.ˈnei̯θ͇/). Little is known about Manx Norse ({{lang|snon|{{term|monaèsk}}}}), as it is very poorly recorded, the most extensive description being a short document from around 1500AD that contains a list of about 150 words, with a very poor description of the pronunciations. Though from this description we can gather that Manx Norse still had the dental fricatives that had been lost in other dialects (merging with t/d), we get this from the description "... these [th and dh] are like that of the Saxons' beloved þ or the Scots' [Gaels'] sounds of the same staves [=letters]."


Following the treaty of Perth, the usage of Norse began declining significantly, with evidence it was nearly extinct by 1550. A small revitalization occured in the mid 18th century when several of the last native speakers (at the time, Scots Norse had no more than 150 remaining speakers) gathered together to document the language so it could be taught to children. This effort was mostly effective, leading to the first noticeable rise in speaker count since it began declining. By the 1880's, there would be upwards of 1,500 native speakers, a majority of them young.
Following the treaty of Perth, the usage of Norse began declining significantly, with evidence it was nearly extinct by 1550. A small revitalization occured in the mid 18th century when several of the last native speakers (at the time, Scots Norse had no more than 150 remaining speakers) gathered together to document the language so it could be taught to children. This effort was mostly effective, leading to the first noticeable rise in speaker count since it began declining. By the 1880's, there would be upwards of 1,500 native speakers, a majority of them young.
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===Prosody===
===Prosody===
The rules for stress are very slightly more complex than they were in Old Norse, but not by much.
The rules for stress are very slightly more complex than they were in Old Norse, but not by much.
:Stress always goes on the left-most syllable possible. When there are vowels with a grave, stress goes to the first one, skipping over all vowels without one. (so ''sudhraèir'' is stressed on "ø̀")
:Stress always goes on the left-most syllable possible. When there are vowels with a grave, stress goes to the first one, skipping over all vowels without one. (so ''sudhraèir'' is stressed on "aèi")


===Mutation===
===Mutation===
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==Orthography==
==Orthography==
Doubled consonants are essentially identical to singular ones, the exceptions will be placed in the table, and as a general rule, doubled initial consonants are long, composing the only geminates in the language.
Doubled consonants are essentially identical to singular ones, the exceptions will be placed in the table, and as a general rule, doubled initial consonants are long, composing the only geminates in the language.
{| class="wikitable"
{| class="wikitable collapsible collapsed"
! colspan=5 | consonants
|-
! colspan=3 | Letter(s)
! colspan=3 | Letter(s)
! Phoneme
! Phoneme
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| colspan=2 | broad
| colspan=2 | broad
| /bˠ/
| /bˠ/
| {{term|bògi}} /ˈbˠo.ɟɪ/
| ''{{lang|snon|{{term|bògi}}}}'' /ˈbˠo.ɟɪ/
|-
|-
| colspan=2 | slender
| colspan=2 | slender
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| colspan=2 | before u/ù, a consonant, or finally
| colspan=2 | before u/ù, a consonant, or finally
| /./ or null
| /./ or null
| {{term|bhùrr}} /ˈur/, {{term|àbbh}} /ˈo/
| ''{{lang|snon|{{term|bhùrr}}}}'' /ˈur/, ''{{lang|snon|{{term|àbbh}}}}'' /ˈo/
|-
|-
| rowspan=3 | usually
| rowspan=3 | usually
| plain
| plain
| /v/
| /v/
| {{term|bhàrr}} /ˈvor/
| ''{{lang|snon|{{term|bhàrr}}}}'' /ˈvor/
|-
|-
| broad
| broad
| /vˠ/
| /vˠ/
| {{term|bholc}} /ˈvˠʊkʰ/
| ''{{lang|snon|{{term|bholl}}}}'' /ˈvˠɔl/
|-
|-
| slender
| slender
| /vʲ/
| /vʲ/
| {{term|bhère}} /ˈvʲerʲ/
| ''{{lang|snon|{{term|bhèrr}}}}'' /ˈvʲerʲ/
|-
|-
| rowspan=4 | '''c'''
| rowspan=4 | '''c'''
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| initially and finally
| initially and finally
| /kʰ/
| /kʰ/
| {{term|cotte}} /ˈkʰɔt͡ʃʰ/
| ''{{lang|snon|{{term|cotte}}}}'' /ˈkʰɔt͡ʃʰ/
|-
|-
| between vowels
| between vowels
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| initially and finally
| initially and finally
| /cʰ/
| /cʰ/
| {{term|cìss}} /cʰis/
| ''{{lang|snon|{{term|cìss}}}}'' /cʰis/
|-
|-
| between vowels  
| between vowels  
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| colspan=2 | plain/broad
| colspan=2 | plain/broad
| /x/
| /x/
| {{term|locch}} /ˈlˠɔx/
| ''{{lang|snon|{{term|loch}}}}'' /ˈɫɔx/
|-
|-
| colspan=2 | slender
| colspan=2 | slender
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| colspan=3 | '''cn'''
| colspan=3 | '''cn'''
| /kʰɾ/
| /kʰɾ/
| {{term|cnà}} /ˈkʰɾo/
| ''{{lang|snon|{{term|cnà}}}}'' /ˈkʰɾo/
|-
| colspan=3 | '''chn'''
| /xɾ/ [r̥]
| ''{{lang|snon|({{term|e}}) {{term|chnà}}}}'' /(ˈɛ) ˈxɾo/
|-
|-
| rowspan=3 | '''d'''
| rowspan=3 | '''d'''
| colspan=2 | plain
| colspan=2 | plain
| /d/
| /d/
| {{term|dàge}} /ˈdoɟ/
| ''{{lang|snon|{{term|dàge}}}}'' /ˈdoɟ/
|-
|-
| colspan=2 | broad
| colspan=2 | broad
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| colspan=2 | intervocalic/pre-consonantal/finally
| colspan=2 | intervocalic/pre-consonantal/finally
| /./ or null
| /./ or null
| {{term|òdha}} /ˈo.ə/, {{term|sudhrø̀jr}} /sˠʌ.ˈrei̯θ͇/
| ''{{lang|snon|{{term|òdha}}}}'' /ˈo.ə/, ''{{lang|snon|{{term|sudhraèir}}}}'' /sˠʌ.ˈrei̯θ͇/
|-
|-
| colspan=2 | plain/broad
| colspan=2 | plain/broad
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| colspan=2 | plain/broad
| colspan=2 | plain/broad
| /g/
| /g/
| {{term|godh}} /ˈɡɔ/
| ''{{lang|snon|{{term|godh}}}}'' /ˈɡɔ/
|-
|-
| colspan=2 | slender
| colspan=2 | slender
| /ɟ/
| /ɟ/
| {{term|dàge}} /ˈdoɟ/
| ''{{lang|snon|{{term|dàge}}}}'' /ˈdoɟ/
|-
| rowspan=2 | '''gh'''
| colspan=2 | plain/broad
| /ɣ/
| ''{{lang|snon|({{term|han}}) {{term|ghodh}}}}'' /(ˈhã) ˈɣɔ/
|-
| colspan=2 | slender
| /ʝ/
| ''{{lang|snon|{{term|}}}}'' //
|-
|-
| colspan=3 | '''gn'''
| colspan=3 | '''gn'''
| /ɡɾ/
| /ɡɾ/
| {{term|gnø̀t}} /ˈɡɾet/
| ''{{lang|snon|{{term|gnaèt}}}}'' /ˈɡɾet/
|-
|-
| rowspan=3 | '''h'''
| rowspan=3 | '''h'''
| colspan=2 | plain
| colspan=2 | plain
| /h/
| /h/
| {{term|hàte}} /ˈhot͡ʃ/
| ''{{lang|snon|{{term|hàte}}}}'' /ˈhot͡ʃ/
|-
|-
| colspan=2 | broad
| colspan=2 | broad
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| colspan=2 | slender
| colspan=2 | slender
| /ç/
| /ç/
| {{term|dìhiale}} /ˈd͡ʒi.çəʎ/
| ''{{lang|snon|{{term|dìhiale}}}}'' /ˈd͡ʒi.çəʎ/
|-
|-
| rowspan=4 | '''l'''
| rowspan=4 | '''l'''
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| finally
| finally
| /ʃ/
| /ʃ/
| {{term|sèl}} /ˈʃeʃ/
| ''{{lang|snon|{{term|sèl}}}}'' /ˈʃeʃ/
|-
|-
| colspan=2 | broad
| colspan=2 | broad
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| colspan=2 | slender
| colspan=2 | slender
| /ʎ/
| /ʎ/
| {{term|sèl|sèlir}} /ˈʃe.ʎɪθ͇/
| ''{{lang|snon|{{term|sèl|sèlir}}}}'' /ˈʃe.ʎɪθ͇/
|-
|-
| rowspan=3 | '''ll'''
| rowspan=3 | '''ll'''
| colspan=2 | plain
| colspan=2 | plain
| /l/
| /l/
| {{term|tàll}} {{IPA|/ˈtol/}}
| ''{{lang|snon|{{term|tàll}}}}'' /ˈtol/
|-
|-
| colspan=2 | broad
| colspan=2 | broad
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| colspan=2 | plain
| colspan=2 | plain
| /m/
| /m/
| {{term|màl}} /mu/
| ''{{lang|snon|{{term|màl}}}}'' /ˈmoʃ/
|-
|-
| colspan=2 | broad
| colspan=2 | broad
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| colspan=2 | slender
| colspan=2 | slender
| /mʲ/
| /mʲ/
| {{term|}} //
|-
| rowspan=3 | '''mh'''
| colspan=2 | plain
| /m̥/
| ''{{lang|snon|({{term|hi|hin}}) {{term|mhàl}}}}'' /(ˈçɪ̃) ˈm̥oʃ/
|-
| colspan=2 | broad
| /m̥ˠ/
| {{term|}} //
|-
| colspan=2 | slender
| /m̥ʲ/
| {{term|}} //
| {{term|}} //
|-  
|-  
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|-
|-
| colspan=2 | broad
| colspan=2 | broad
| /nˠ/
| /nˠ/
| {{term|}} //
| {{term|}} //
|-
|-
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| colspan=2 | post-vocalic when final/pre-fricative
| colspan=2 | post-vocalic when final/pre-fricative
| /Ṽ/
| /Ṽ/
| {{term|}} //
|-
| rowspan=3 | '''nh'''
| colspan=2 | plain
| /n̥/
| {{term|}} //
|-
| colspan=2 | broad
| /n̥ˠ~ŋ̊/
| {{term|}} //
|-
| colspan=2 | slender
| /ɲ̊/
| {{term|}} //
| {{term|}} //
|-
|-
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| colspan=2 | plain
| colspan=2 | plain
| /n/
| /n/
| {{term|hann}} /han/
| ''{{lang|snon|{{term|hann}}}}'' /han/
|-
|-
| colspan=2 | broad
| colspan=2 | broad
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| elsewhere
| elsewhere
| /p/
| /p/
| {{term|priadh}} /ˈprʲa/
| ''{{lang|snon|{{term|priadh}}}}'' /ˈprʲa/
|-
|-
| colspan=2 | broad
| colspan=2 | broad
| /pˠ/
| /pˠ/
| {{term|post}} /ˈpˠɔstʰ/
| ''{{lang|snon|{{term|post}}}}'' /ˈpˠɔstʰ/
|-
|-
| colspan=2 | slender
| colspan=2 | slender
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| colspan=2 | plain
| colspan=2 | plain
| /f/
| /f/
| {{term|ophàrr}} /ɒ.ˈfor/
| ''{{lang|snon|{{term|ophàrr}}}}'' /ɒ.ˈfor/
|-
|-
| colspan=2 | broad
| colspan=2 | broad
| /fˠ/
| /fˠ/
| ({{term|sa}}) {{term|phost}} /(ˈsa) ˈfˠɔstʰ/
| ''{{lang|snon|({{term|sa}}) {{term|phost}}}}'' /(ˈsa) ˈfˠɔstʰ/
|-
|-
| colspan=2 | slender
| colspan=2 | slender
| /fʲ/
| /fʲ/
| (han) {{term|phiutharr}} /(ˈhã) ˈfʲɤ.ər/
| ''{{lang|snon|({{term|han}}) {{term|phiutharr}}}}'' /(ˈhã) ˈfʲɤ.ər/
|-
|-
| rowspan=4 | '''r'''
| rowspan=4 | '''r'''
| colspan=2 | finally
| colspan=2 | finally
| /θ͇/
| /θ͇/
| {{term|bhar}} /ˈvaθ͇/
| ''{{lang|snon|{{term|bhar}}}}'' /ˈvaθ͇/
|-
|-
| colspan=2 | plain
| colspan=2 | plain
| /r/
| /r/
| {{term|sudhrø̀scc}} /sˠʌ.ˈreskʰ/
| ''{{lang|snon|{{term|sudhraèscc}}}}'' /sˠʌ.ˈreskʰ/
|-
|-
| colspan=2 | broad
| colspan=2 | broad
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| colspan=2 | slender
| colspan=2 | slender
| /rʲ/
| /rʲ/
| {{term|bhère}} /ˈvʲerʲ/
| ''{{lang|snon|{{term|bhère}}}}'' /ˈvʲerʲ/
|-
|-
| rowspan=4 | '''rr'''
| rowspan=4 | '''rr'''
| colspan=2 | finally
| colspan=2 | finally
| /r/
| /r/
| {{term|bhàrr}} /ˈvor/
| ''{{lang|snon|{{term|bhàrr}}}}'' /ˈvor/
|-
|-
| colspan=2 | plain
| colspan=2 | plain
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| /ɾʃt̪/
| /ɾʃt̪/
| {{term|}} //
| {{term|}} //
|-
| colspan=3 | '''-rn'''
| /r/
| {{term|norn}} /ˈnɔr/
|-
|-
| rowspan=3 | '''s'''
| rowspan=3 | '''s'''
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| colspan=2 | slender
| colspan=2 | slender
| /ʃ/
| /ʃ/
| {{term|sèl}} /ˈʃeʃ/
| ''{{lang|snon|{{term|sèl}}}}'' /ˈʃeʃ/
|-  
|-  
| rowspan=3 | '''sh'''
| rowspan=3 | '''sh'''
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| colspan=2 | slender
| colspan=2 | slender
| /ç/
| /ç/
| bhol {{term|shèl}} /ˈvɤ ˈçeʃ/
| ''{{lang|snon|({{term|bholl}}) {{term|shèl}}}}'' /(ˈvˠɔl) ˈçeʃ/
|-
|-
| rowspan=5 | '''t'''
| rowspan=5 | '''t'''
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| initially/finally
| initially/finally
| /tʰ/
| /tʰ/
| {{term|tàll}} /ˈtʰol/
| ''{{lang|snon|{{term|tàll}}}}'' /ˈtʰol/
|-
|-
| elsewhere
| elsewhere
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| colspan=2 | broad
| colspan=2 | broad
| /x/
| /x/
| {{term|thù}} /ˈxu/
| ''{{lang|snon|{{term|thù}}}}'' /ˈxu/
|-
|-
| colspan=2 | slender
| colspan=2 | slender
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| colspan=2 | slender
| colspan=2 | slender
| /ʒ/
| /ʒ/
| an {{term|zèl}} /(ˈã) ˈʒeʃ/
| ''{{lang|snon|({{term|an}}) {{term|zèl}}}}'' /(ˈan) ˈʒeʃ/
|-
|-
|}
|}
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{{snon-decl-adj|sèl|r=sèl|fc=l|lem=sèl}}
{{snon-decl-adj|sèl|r=sèl|fc=l|lem=sèl}}


===Adverbs===
===Prepositions===
Scots Norse has developed a system of inflected prepositions from the reduction of pronouns, these were eventually interpreted as part of the preposition rather than a pronoun as they had diverged so far from them.
 
{{snon-infl-prep|lem=ì|r=in|rm=im|rl=inh|dl=innh|nl=innh}}
 
 
 
{{snon-infl-prep|lem=at|r=at|rm=an|rl=ath|dl=atth|rv=ad|rln=anh}}
 
===Verbs===
===Verbs===
====Strong verbs====
====Strong verbs====
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======Class 1-light======
======Class 1-light======
=====Class 2=====
=====Class 2=====
{{snon-conj-weak2|tàl|tòl|d=tàll}}
{{snon-conj-weak2|tàl|tòl|fc=l}}


=====Class 3=====
=====Class 3=====
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'''Scots Norse''':
'''Scots Norse''':
:{{lang|snon|alir me n-èrir borimhriàlsir o chiabhnir at bhirdhingu o rhèttu. nhèr èru alir bhìti gaèddir o shanbhiscu, o shculu gaèrr bhàr til annarr bhròdhurligg.}}
:{{lang|snon|alir me n-èru bornir phriàlsir o chiabhnir, bhèrdi bhirdhingar o rhètti ather. thèr èru alir gaèddir bhìti o shamhiscu, o shculu gèrr bhàr til annarr bhròdhurligg.}}
:(alir me n-èru bornir bhriàlsir o chiabhnir, bhèrdi bhirdhingar o rhètti ather. thèr èru alir gaèddir bhìti o shamhiscu, o shculu gèrr bhàr til annarr bhròdhurligg.)
:/ˈa.ʎɪθ mʲɛ ɲe.rˠʌ ˈbɔr.ɪθ ˈvrʲu.ʃɪθ ɒ ˈça.ɲɪθ ˈvʲer.d͡ʒɪ ˈvʲɪr.ɪŋ.ɡəθ ɒ r̥ʲe.t͡ʃɪ ə.çɛθ | çeθ ˈe.rˠʌ ˈa.ʎɪθ ˈɡe.d͡ʒɪθ vʲi.t͡ʃɪ ɒ ˈha.ˌm̥ʲɪs.kʌ ɒ ˈhkʰɤ.lʌ ˈɟer ˈvoθ ˈt͡ʃʰɪʃ ˈa.nər ˈvrˠo.ər.ʎɪɡ/
 
:'''English translation'''
::lit: "all men are born free and equal, being dignity and rights at them. they are all endowed to reason and to conscience, and should act each to others to brotherly(ness)"
::"all men are born free and equal, having dignity and rights. they are all endowed with reason and conscience, and should act to eachother as a brotherhood"


==Lexical comparison==
==Lexical comparison==