Neckthai
| Neckthai | |
|---|---|
| Nékthij dòai | |
| Created by | IlL |
| Setting | Hussmauch |
| Native speakers | 50 million (2200 v.C.) |
Riceneck
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Neckthai (native name Nékthij dòai) is a Riceneck language with over 50 million speakers. It is the official language of Neckthailand (Nékthijmien)
Phonology
Consonants
Initials
| Labial | Alveolar | Click | Palatal | Velar | Uvular | Glottal | ||
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| Nasal | m /m/ | n /n/ | nǃx /ŋǃ/ | ng /ŋ/ | ||||
| Plosive | plain | p /p/ | t /t/ | ǃx /ǃ/ | tj /tɕ/ | k /k/ | /ʔ/ | |
| aspirated | ph /pʰ/ | th /tʰ/ | ǃxh /ǃʰ/ | tjh /tɕʰ/ | kh /kʰ/ | |||
| voiced | b /b/ | d /d/ | ||||||
| Fricative | v /f/ | z /s/ | g, sch /x/ | h /h/ | ||||
| Trill/App. | w /w/ | j /j/ | r /ʀ~ʁ/ | |||||
| Lat. app. | l /l/ | |||||||
Allowed initial clusters: pl, pr, phl, phr, vl, vr, tr, thr, ǃxr, ǃxhr, kl, kr, kw, khl, khr, khw
Many speakers in the capital Houwá Thing Vîer merge the pairs /pʀ pʰʀ/, /tʀ tʰʀ/, and /kʀ kʰʀ/. /ǃ(ʰ)ʀ/ is often pronounced as [ǃ(ʰ)]. Some dialects merge /ʀ-/ and /ŋ-/ into a nasalized uvular flap /ʀ̆ⁿ/ or approximant /ʁ̃/ and also simplify all Cr clusters to C.
Finals
| Labial | Alveolar | Dorsal | Laryngeal | ||
|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| Nasal | m [m] | n, l [n] | ng, r [ŋ] | ||
| Plosive | p [p̚] | t [t̚] | k [k̚] | ' [ʔ] | |
| App. | (uw [w]) | (i [j]) | |||
Vowels
Monophthongs
| Front | Central | Back | ||||
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| short | long | short | long | short | long | |
| Close | i /i/ | ie /iː/ | u /ɯᵝ/ | uu /ɯᵝː/ | oe /uː/ | |
| Close-mid | e /e/ | ee /eː/ | eo /ɤ/ | eu /ɤː/ | o /o/ | oo /oː/ |
| Open-mid | æ /ɛ/ | ae /ɛː/ | ọ /ɔ/ | oa /ɔː/ | ||
| Open | a /ɐ/ | aa /aː/ | ||||
Diphthongs
| Long | Short | ||
|---|---|---|---|
| Neckthai | IPA | Neckthai | IPA |
| aai | /aːj/ | ij | /aj/ |
| aauw | /aːw/ | ouw, ou | /aw/ |
| ia | /iːa/ | ia' | /ia/ |
| ieuw | /iːw/ | – | – |
| oea | /uːa/ | oea' | /ua/ |
| oei | /uːj/ | – | – |
| eeuw | /eːw/ | euw | /ew/ |
| aeuw | /ɛːw/ | – | – |
| ua | /ɯːa/ | ua' | /ɯa/ |
| eui | /ɤːj/ | ui | /ɤj/ |
| oai | /ɔːj/ | – | – |
| ooi | /oːj/ | oi | /oj/ |
Triphthongs
| Neckthai | IPA |
|---|---|
| iauw | /iaw/ |
| oeai | /uaj/ |
| uai | /ɯaj/ |
Tones
Standard Neckthai uses 5 tones.
- Mid: raa /ʀāː/ [ʀaː˧] 'easy'
- Low: ràa /ʀàː/ [ʀaː˨˩] 'loud'
- Falling: râa /ʀâː/ [ʀaː˥˩˩] 'fruit'
- High: ráa /ʀáː/ [ʀaː˥] 'white'
- Rising: raaʔ /ʀǎː/ [ʀaː˨˩˦] 'vase'
Orthography
Neckthai is written in a version of the Tergetian abugida.
A kháschàwijjálijn (Gerschweierlein; an analogue to the Thai thanthakhat) is a %-like diacritic that marks consonants that are silenced in the Neckthai pronunciation of Wiebian loanwords. For example, wan 'body; physical object' is written ϕn!ϙ% (wand%, reflecting Wiebian Wande 'body') with a kháschàwijjálijn over the d.
∑ε - T
upside down P, ⊥- G
Ǝ 3 - K
Φ ϕ - W
Ṭ ! - N
(I mean turned P)
Ξ ξ - L
I would use kappa
Κ κ - Q
Z z - Pfegied
I wouldn't use face for Ang
perhaps Ϝ ϝ
∇ʋ - Ŧ
Or what about this for G: Ь ь
Praveen Venkataramana
10/31, 12:59pm
Praveen Venkataramana
good
DongBin Choi
10/31, 1:00pm
DongBin Choi
let's make all of them unicode symbols
and superscripts/subscripts
Praveen Venkataramana
10/31, 1:00pm
Praveen Venkataramana
so neckthai and terg can be written with unicode!
DongBin Choi
10/31, 1:01pm
DongBin Choi
maybe not
only when you have subscripts and superscripbs
Praveen Venkataramana
10/31, 1:01pm
Praveen Venkataramana
unicode has a few superscripts and subscripts
tσæba sounds too much like ŧèabh
DongBin Choi
10/31, 1:02pm
DongBin Choi
i could use the superscript x for instance
Praveen Venkataramana
10/31, 1:02pm
Praveen Venkataramana
i'll change it as it's a Vrūszka word
σværa will be ʈ as the first clocks were pendulum clocks
I still have to work on Vrūszka aesthetics
will you have turned pi for śneadha?
DongBin Choi
10/31, 1:04pm
DongBin Choi
there is no lowercase turned pi
so i might not
Praveen Venkataramana
10/31, 1:05pm
Praveen Venkataramana
use "u" grin emoticon
DongBin Choi
10/31, 1:05pm
DongBin Choi
good
Praveen Venkataramana
10/31, 1:06pm
Praveen Venkataramana
though lowercase turned pi looks really math gibby
i like it way too much
what do you have for qrìdh?
DongBin Choi
10/31, 1:08pm
DongBin Choi
Kappa
Praveen Venkataramana
10/31, 1:09pm
Praveen Venkataramana
leaqhan is xi
DongBin Choi
10/31, 1:09pm
DongBin Choi
yes
Praveen Venkataramana
10/31, 1:10pm
Praveen Venkataramana
zeamhal = lambda?
DongBin Choi
10/31, 1:10pm
DongBin Choi
yes
Praveen Venkataramana
10/31, 1:11pm
Praveen Venkataramana
actually ϯ is better
ḍaoi = ?
that could be union
DongBin Choi
10/31, 1:12pm
DongBin Choi
Union, lowercase upsilon
Praveen Venkataramana
10/31, 1:12pm
Praveen Venkataramana
but what happens to śnadha?
DongBin Choi
10/31, 1:13pm
DongBin Choi
Cyrillic ts?
for lowercase
Praveen Venkataramana
10/31, 1:13pm
Praveen Venkataramana
good
DongBin Choi
10/31, 1:15pm
DongBin Choi
Tazàr: ∩ n
Praveen Venkataramana
10/31, 1:15pm
Praveen Venkataramana
đrùcha = ?
DongBin Choi
10/31, 1:16pm
DongBin Choi
theta
Praveen Venkataramana
10/31, 1:16pm
Praveen Venkataramana
reaphaṭ = ?
not phi
DongBin Choi
10/31, 1:17pm
DongBin Choi
pretty difficult
i should change it
Praveen Venkataramana
10/31, 1:17pm
Praveen Venkataramana
yes
ipa gib is much easier than math gib smile emoticon
DongBin Choi
10/31, 1:18pm
DongBin Choi
beta?
Praveen Venkataramana
10/31, 1:18pm
Praveen Venkataramana
yes
DongBin Choi
10/31, 1:20pm
DongBin Choi
ß: shcha
ßiłß grin emoticon
Praveen Venkataramana
10/31, 1:20pm
Praveen Venkataramana
or just sha
looks like the shafarevich-tate group
DongBin Choi
10/31, 1:21pm
DongBin Choi
Ш ш
Praveen Venkataramana
10/31, 1:22pm
Praveen Venkataramana
yes
actually it looks more hebrew-ish than mathy
aestheticwise
DongBin Choi
10/31, 1:23pm
DongBin Choi
what about something else for S
V v
Praveen Venkataramana
10/31, 1:23pm
Praveen Venkataramana
then W for discherschnade
that's good
DongBin Choi
10/31, 1:23pm
DongBin Choi
then eszett can be w
no more upside down pi frown emoticon
Praveen Venkataramana
10/31, 1:24pm
Praveen Venkataramana
that could be R
or Ḍ
DongBin Choi
10/31, 1:27pm
DongBin Choi
what should I use for jamm?
Lambda?
Λ λ
for house
Praveen Venkataramana
10/31, 1:27pm
Praveen Venkataramana
yes
or an arrow!
Λ⇑
DongBin Choi
10/31, 1:29pm
DongBin Choi
What about Fitt
Praveen Venkataramana
10/31, 1:30pm
Praveen Venkataramana
integral?
small s
DongBin Choi
10/31, 1:30pm
DongBin Choi
yes
then I'll have to change my o
Zamm is pi
the name might be changed
Praveen Venkataramana
10/31, 1:32pm
Praveen Venkataramana
'house'?
DongBin Choi
10/31, 1:33pm
DongBin Choi
Zefahm?
Praveen Venkataramana
10/31, 1:33pm
Praveen Venkataramana
that's jamm grin emoticon
zeaphàmh?
DongBin Choi
10/31, 1:33pm
DongBin Choi
seaphàmh
Praveen Venkataramana
10/31, 1:33pm
Praveen Venkataramana
tent?
DongBin Choi
10/31, 1:34pm
DongBin Choi
actually I like zegahm better
seaghàmh
Praveen Venkataramana
10/31, 1:34pm
Praveen Venkataramana
yes
DongBin Choi
10/31, 1:35pm
DongBin Choi
Rift?
what about R
Praveen Venkataramana
10/31, 1:35pm
Praveen Venkataramana
R was ɸ
DongBin Choi
10/31, 1:36pm
DongBin Choi
we don't want that
that's wier now
I'll change the name
Praveen Venkataramana
10/31, 1:36pm
Praveen Venkataramana
∞?
capital letter 8
DongBin Choi
10/31, 1:36pm
DongBin Choi
8∞
then we could have superscript infinity for vocalized r in neck thai
Praveen Venkataramana
10/31, 1:37pm
Praveen Venkataramana
yes
cloud
- rōwom?
ròf
DongBin Choi
10/31, 1:38pm
DongBin Choi
rò?
rù?
Rau or Ruh?
Praveen Venkataramana
10/31, 1:38pm
Praveen Venkataramana
i thought w -> f
so "Roff"
DongBin Choi
10/31, 1:39pm
DongBin Choi
only syllable initially
Praveen Venkataramana
10/31, 1:39pm
Praveen Venkataramana
rò -> Rau
DongBin Choi
10/31, 1:39pm
DongBin Choi
after a vowel it vocalizes
Lecken means lick and Rau means rough
it could be Roh
raw
smile emoticon
I like Roh
Kohl means cabbage
But nothing else means anything as far as I know
in german
Grammar
Pronouns
- I: khôet
- thou: òer
- we: ngàe
Loanwords
Many Neckthai words are derived from Wiebian and are pronounced close to Ancient Wiebian or early Middle Wiebian. For illustration of how Wiebian loanwords are treated in Neckthai, this is the full name of Houwá Thing Vîer, the capital of Neckthailand:
- Khrúmá ǃXijphen Zàtaalá Vaeʔná Zàtijlen ǃXhruuzenʔ Tràk Zàtrèzèt Khéschàwijʔphét ǃXhijn Théloatèt Kia Wítzàtà ǃXan Wágenʔ Phlátzàtouvenʔ ǃXìjk Trouphen Khéteul Thétphouzèt Houwá Thing Vîer
- /kʰrɯ́ʔmɐ́ʔ ǃāipʰēn sɐ̀ʔtāːlɐ́ʔ fɛ̌ːnɐ́ʔ sɐ̀ʔtāilēn ǃʰʀɯ̄ːsěn tʀɐ̀k | sɐ̀ʔtʀèʔsèt kʰéʔxɐ̀ʔwǎipʰét ǃʰāin | tʰéʔlɔ̄ːtèt kīːɐ wítsɐ̀ʔtɐ̀ʔ ǃɐ̄n wɐ́ʔxěn pʰlɐ́tsɐ̀ʔtāufěn ǃàik | tʀāupʰēn kʰétɤ̄ːn tʰétpʰāusèt hāuwɐ́ʔ tʰīŋ fîːŋ/
- In Wiebian spelling: Grümmerŧeibenstalerfernersteilenđrüßentrachtensträtzesgeschweibesđeinesdelorteskierwisterŧannwachenblatzstaufenŧeischestraubengetöhldesbaußeshauerdinŧ Vîer
- Grümmer-Ŧeiben-Staler-Ferner-Steilen-Đrüßen-Trachten Strätzes-Geschweibes-Đeines Delortes-kier-Wister-Ŧann-Wachen-Blatz-Staufen-Ŧeisches Trauben-Getöhl-Desbaußes-Hauer-Dinŧ Vîer
- ancient harp ??? ??? ??? ??? create-VN art wisdom-DAT shine-VN PL-eon-DAT ten wister marble wall under-royal_subject guard-VN celestial_body splendor PASS-exalt-VN king miracle city
- The miracle of the exalted king of celestial splendor who created paradise, shines in art and wisdom, and guards his subjects in a ten-wister-long eternal marble wall (1 Wister = 20 km)