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I sent him a letter, would be: Tacyirjaposònabuno''lei''. In this case, ''lei'' is the dative indirect object pronoun form of 'le', ''Patientive he/she/it''.

Sometimes, contractions can happen, for example in 'Give it to me': Instead of 'Rutthinapo''tai''l-e', where ''tai'' is the dative indirect object pronoun form of 'ta', ''Agentive ‘I’ '', on older texts, it may be written as 'Rutthinapo''til'' '~~, but it is pretty rare~~. Other common (and correct) contraction involves contracting the two pronouns and putting them on both pronoun spots; Subject and Incorporated pronoun. For example: (You) Say sorry to him -> The pronouns are Vi(You, ~~Agentive~~) and Lei(He/She/It, Dative, Indirect Object) -> Vi + Lei = vlii -> Instead of ‘Vitthireilei’ -> Vliitthireivlii.

Sometimes, contractions can happen, for example in 'Give it to me': Instead of 'Rutthinapo''tai''l-e', where ''tai'' is the dative indirect object pronoun form of 'ta', ''Agentive ‘I’ '', on older texts, it may be written as 'Rutthinapo''til'' '. Other common (and correct) contraction involves contracting the two pronouns and putting them on both pronoun spots; Subject and Incorporated pronoun. For example: (You) Say sorry to him -> The pronouns are Vyi(You(Agentive), Pegative) and Lei(He/She/It, Dative, Indirect Object) -> Vyi + Lei = vlii -> Instead of ‘Vitthireilei’ -> Vliitthireivlii.

Other basic pronouns include the ones that follow adpositions. For example: It’s not for you: ~~Lecyisurimu~~'ris', where 'ris' is the dative direct object pronoun form of 'ru', ''Patientive you''.

Other basic pronouns include the ones that follow adpositions. For example: It’s not for you: Lyicyisurimu'ris', where 'ris' is the dative direct object pronoun form of 'ru', ''Patientive you'' and 'Lyi' is the Pegative form of the Patientive (He/She/it).

Reflexive and Reciprocal pronouns also exist, for example: Write the text yourself!: Vitthittuugipu'vou', where 'vou' is the reflexive form of 'vi', ''Agentive you''. If in case of the object already being mentioned before, when replaced by 'it' then, it would appear in the default form after the first pronoun, being literally: Write yourself it. In this case, the phrase would be: Vitthittuvoul-e. Yes, when pronouns are clitics or just appear after, the first phoneme is transferred into the final of that group of affixes, so 'le', would be 'l-e', as seen in the example, however, this does not affect the pronunciation.

Clitics are pronouns that don’t have specific slots inside the complex of affixes, so it is put at the end, maybe with even 2 other more pronouns, or maybe contracted with all others. So, if there are three pronouns referring to one verb like: May you cook for us, her and them! (Literally: May you cook for us, her, them), would be: ~~Visorlìjujoul~~-eirl-ou instead of ~~Visorlìjujoul~~-ei-rlou, …-lei-rlou or …-l-ei-rl-ou or whatever. In this case, it can also be contracted: vi + jou + lei + rlou = vyourlei, so -> Vyourleisorlìjuvyourlei, however, this is unpractical and inconvenient, although correct.

Clitics are pronouns that don’t have specific slots inside the complex of affixes, so it is put at the end, maybe with even 2 other more pronouns, or maybe contracted with all others. So, if there are three pronouns referring to one verb like: May you cook for us, her and them! (Literally: May you cook for us, her, them), would be: Vyisorlìjujoul-eirl-ou instead of Vyisorlìjujoul-ei-rlou, …-lei-rlou or …-l-ei-rl-ou or whatever. In this case, it can also be contracted: vyi + jou + lei + rlou = vyourlei, so -> Vyourleisorlìjuvyourlei, however, this is unpractical and inconvenient(this example), although correct.

Sometimes, when a clitic ends up somewhere where can’t be that specific cluster, an 'a' is put in the middle, if a consonant cluster, however if a big vowel cluster, a 'l' is put in between.

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 I sent him a letter, would be: Tacyirjaposònabuno''lei''. In this case, ''lei'' is the dative indirect object pronoun form of 'le', ''Patientive he/she/it''.
-Sometimes, contractions can happen, for example in 'Give it to me': Instead of 'Rutthinapo''tai''l-e', where ''tai'' is the dative indirect object pronoun form of 'ta', ''Agentive ‘I’ '', on older texts, it may be written as 'Rutthinapo''til'' ', but it is pretty rare. Other common (and correct) contraction involves contracting the two pronouns and putting them on both pronoun spots; Subject and Incorporated pronoun. For example: (You) Say sorry to him -> The pronouns are Vi(You, Agentive) and Lei(He/She/It, Dative, Indirect Object) -> Vi + Lei = vlii -> Instead of ‘Vitthireilei’ -> Vliitthireivlii.
+Sometimes, contractions can happen, for example in 'Give it to me': Instead of 'Rutthinapo''tai''l-e', where ''tai'' is the dative indirect object pronoun form of 'ta', ''Agentive ‘I’ '', on older texts, it may be written as 'Rutthinapo''til'' '. Other common (and correct) contraction involves contracting the two pronouns and putting them on both pronoun spots; Subject and Incorporated pronoun. For example: (You) Say sorry to him -> The pronouns are Vyi(You(Agentive), Pegative) and Lei(He/She/It, Dative, Indirect Object) -> Vyi + Lei = vlii -> Instead of ‘Vitthireilei’ -> Vliitthireivlii.
-Other basic pronouns include the ones that follow adpositions. For example: It’s not for you: Lecyisurimu'ris', where 'ris' is the dative direct object pronoun form of 'ru', ''Patientive you''.
+Other basic pronouns include the ones that follow adpositions. For example: It’s not for you: Lyicyisurimu'ris', where 'ris' is the dative direct object pronoun form of 'ru', ''Patientive you'' and 'Lyi' is the Pegative form of the Patientive (He/She/it).
 Reflexive and Reciprocal pronouns also exist, for example: Write the text yourself!: Vitthittuugipu'vou', where 'vou' is the reflexive form of 'vi', ''Agentive you''. If in case of the object already being mentioned before, when replaced by 'it' then, it would appear in the default form after the first pronoun, being literally: Write yourself it. In this case, the phrase would be: Vitthittuvoul-e. Yes, when pronouns are clitics or just appear after, the first phoneme is transferred into the final of that group of affixes, so 'le', would be 'l-e', as seen in the example, however, this does not affect the pronunciation.
-Clitics are pronouns that don’t have specific slots inside the complex of affixes, so it is put at the end, maybe with even 2 other more pronouns, or maybe contracted with all others. So, if there are three pronouns referring to one verb like: May you cook for us, her and them! (Literally: May you cook for us, her, them), would be: Visorlìjujoul-eirl-ou instead of Visorlìjujoul-ei-rlou, …-lei-rlou or …-l-ei-rl-ou or whatever. In this case, it can also be contracted: vi + jou + lei + rlou = vyourlei, so -> Vyourleisorlìjuvyourlei, however, this is unpractical and inconvenient, although correct.
+Clitics are pronouns that don’t have specific slots inside the complex of affixes, so it is put at the end, maybe with even 2 other more pronouns, or maybe contracted with all others. So, if there are three pronouns referring to one verb like: May you cook for us, her and them! (Literally: May you cook for us, her, them), would be: Vyisorlìjujoul-eirl-ou instead of Vyisorlìjujoul-ei-rlou, …-lei-rlou or …-l-ei-rl-ou or whatever. In this case, it can also be contracted: vyi + jou + lei + rlou = vyourlei, so -> Vyourleisorlìjuvyourlei, however, this is unpractical and inconvenient(this example), although correct.
 Sometimes, when a clitic ends up somewhere where can’t be that specific cluster, an 'a' is put in the middle, if a consonant cluster, however if a big vowel cluster, a 'l' is put in between.