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| ∑ε - T
| | ∑ ε - T |
| upside down P, ⊥- G
| | Ь ь - G |
| Ǝ 3 - K | | Ǝ 3 - K |
| Φ ϕ - W | | Φ ϕ - W |
| Ṭ ! - N | | Ṭ ! - N |
| (I mean turned P)
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| Ξ ξ - L | | Ξ ξ - L |
| I would use kappa
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| Κ κ - Q | | Κ κ - Q |
| Z z - Pfegied | | Z z - P |
| I wouldn't use face for Ang
| | Ϝ ϝ = ʔ |
| perhaps Ϝ ϝ
| | ∇ ʋ - Ŧ |
| ∇ʋ - Ŧ
| | T ϯ - Z (zeamhal) |
| Or what about this for G: Ь ь
| | ∪ υ - Ḍ |
| Praveen Venkataramana
| | ∩ n - Ṭ |
| 10/31, 12:59pm
| | Θ θ - Đ |
| Praveen Venkataramana
| | 8 ∞ - R |
| good
| | V v - S |
| DongBin Choi
| | W w - ß |
| 10/31, 1:00pm
| | Λ⇑ - J |
| DongBin Choi
| | S s - F |
| let's make all of them unicode symbols
| | - Zegahm |
| and superscripts/subscripts
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| Praveen Venkataramana
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| 10/31, 1:00pm
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| Praveen Venkataramana
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| so neckthai and terg can be written with unicode!
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| DongBin Choi
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| 10/31, 1:01pm
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| DongBin Choi
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| maybe not
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| only when you have subscripts and superscripbs
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| Praveen Venkataramana
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| 10/31, 1:01pm
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| Praveen Venkataramana
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| unicode has a few superscripts and subscripts
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| tσæba sounds too much like ŧèabh
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| DongBin Choi
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| 10/31, 1:02pm
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| DongBin Choi
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| i could use the superscript x for instance
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| Praveen Venkataramana
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| 10/31, 1:02pm
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| Praveen Venkataramana
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| i'll change it as it's a Vrūszka word
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| σværa will be ʈ as the first clocks were pendulum clocks
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| I still have to work on Vrūszka aesthetics
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| will you have turned pi for śneadha?
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| DongBin Choi
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| 10/31, 1:04pm
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| DongBin Choi
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| there is no lowercase turned pi
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| so i might not
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| Praveen Venkataramana
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| 10/31, 1:05pm
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| Praveen Venkataramana
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| use "u" grin emoticon
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| DongBin Choi
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| 10/31, 1:05pm
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| DongBin Choi
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| good
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| Praveen Venkataramana
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| 10/31, 1:06pm
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| Praveen Venkataramana
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| though lowercase turned pi looks really math gibby
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| i like it way too much
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| what do you have for qrìdh?
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| DongBin Choi
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| 10/31, 1:08pm
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| DongBin Choi
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| Kappa
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| Praveen Venkataramana
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| 10/31, 1:09pm
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| Praveen Venkataramana
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| leaqhan is xi
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| DongBin Choi
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| 10/31, 1:09pm
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| DongBin Choi
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| yes
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| Praveen Venkataramana
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| 10/31, 1:10pm
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| Praveen Venkataramana
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| zeamhal = lambda? | |
| DongBin Choi
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| 10/31, 1:10pm
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| DongBin Choi
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| yes
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| Praveen Venkataramana
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| 10/31, 1:11pm
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| Praveen Venkataramana
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| actually ϯ is better
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| ḍaoi = ?
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| that could be union
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| DongBin Choi
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| 10/31, 1:12pm
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| DongBin Choi
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| Union, lowercase upsilon
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| Praveen Venkataramana
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| 10/31, 1:12pm
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| Praveen Venkataramana
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| but what happens to śnadha?
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| DongBin Choi
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| 10/31, 1:13pm
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| DongBin Choi
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| Cyrillic ts?
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| for lowercase
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| Praveen Venkataramana
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| 10/31, 1:13pm
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| Praveen Venkataramana
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| good
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| DongBin Choi
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| 10/31, 1:15pm
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| DongBin Choi
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| Tazàr: ∩ n
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| Praveen Venkataramana
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| 10/31, 1:15pm
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| Praveen Venkataramana
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| đrùcha = ?
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| DongBin Choi
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| 10/31, 1:16pm
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| DongBin Choi
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| theta
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| Praveen Venkataramana
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| 10/31, 1:16pm
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| Praveen Venkataramana
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| reaphaṭ = ?
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| not phi
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| DongBin Choi
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| 10/31, 1:17pm
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| DongBin Choi
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| pretty difficult
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| i should change it
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| Praveen Venkataramana
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| 10/31, 1:17pm
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| Praveen Venkataramana
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| yes
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| ipa gib is much easier than math gib smile emoticon
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| DongBin Choi
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| 10/31, 1:18pm
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| DongBin Choi
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| beta?
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| Praveen Venkataramana
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| 10/31, 1:18pm
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| Praveen Venkataramana
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| yes
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| DongBin Choi
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| 10/31, 1:20pm
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| DongBin Choi
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| ß: shcha
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| ßiłß grin emoticon
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| Praveen Venkataramana
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| 10/31, 1:20pm
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| Praveen Venkataramana
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| or just sha
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| looks like the shafarevich-tate group
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| DongBin Choi
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| 10/31, 1:21pm
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| DongBin Choi
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| Ш ш
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| Praveen Venkataramana
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| 10/31, 1:22pm
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| Praveen Venkataramana
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| yes
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| actually it looks more hebrew-ish than mathy
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| aestheticwise
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| DongBin Choi
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| 10/31, 1:23pm
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| DongBin Choi
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| what about something else for S
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| V v | |
| Praveen Venkataramana
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| 10/31, 1:23pm
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| Praveen Venkataramana
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| then W for discherschnade
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| that's good
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| DongBin Choi
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| 10/31, 1:23pm
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| DongBin Choi
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| then eszett can be w
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| no more upside down pi frown emoticon
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| Praveen Venkataramana
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| 10/31, 1:24pm
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| Praveen Venkataramana
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| that could be R
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| or Ḍ
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| DongBin Choi
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| 10/31, 1:27pm
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| DongBin Choi
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| what should I use for jamm?
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| Lambda?
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| Λ λ
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| for house
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| Praveen Venkataramana
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| 10/31, 1:27pm
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| Praveen Venkataramana
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| yes
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| or an arrow!
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| Λ⇑ | |
| DongBin Choi
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| 10/31, 1:29pm
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| DongBin Choi
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| What about Fitt
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| Praveen Venkataramana
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| 10/31, 1:30pm
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| Praveen Venkataramana
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| integral?
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| small s
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| DongBin Choi
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| 10/31, 1:30pm
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| DongBin Choi
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| yes
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| then I'll have to change my o
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| Zamm is pi
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| the name might be changed
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| Praveen Venkataramana
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| 10/31, 1:32pm
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| Praveen Venkataramana
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| 'house'?
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| DongBin Choi
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| 10/31, 1:33pm
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| DongBin Choi
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| Zefahm?
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| Praveen Venkataramana
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| 10/31, 1:33pm
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| Praveen Venkataramana
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| that's jamm grin emoticon
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| zeaphàmh?
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| DongBin Choi
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| 10/31, 1:33pm
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| DongBin Choi
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| seaphàmh
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| Praveen Venkataramana
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| 10/31, 1:33pm
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| Praveen Venkataramana
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| tent?
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| DongBin Choi
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| 10/31, 1:34pm
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| DongBin Choi
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| actually I like zegahm better
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| seaghàmh
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| Praveen Venkataramana
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| 10/31, 1:34pm
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| Praveen Venkataramana
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| yes
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| DongBin Choi
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| 10/31, 1:35pm
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| DongBin Choi
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| Rift?
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| what about R
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| Praveen Venkataramana
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| 10/31, 1:35pm
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| Praveen Venkataramana
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| R was ɸ
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| DongBin Choi
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| 10/31, 1:36pm
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| DongBin Choi
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| we don't want that
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| that's wier now
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| I'll change the name
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| Praveen Venkataramana
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| 10/31, 1:36pm
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| Praveen Venkataramana
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| ∞?
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| capital letter 8
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| DongBin Choi
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| 10/31, 1:36pm
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| DongBin Choi
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| 8∞
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| then we could have superscript infinity for vocalized r in neck thai
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| Praveen Venkataramana
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| 10/31, 1:37pm
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| Praveen Venkataramana
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| yes
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| cloud
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| *rōwom?
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| ròf
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| DongBin Choi
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| 10/31, 1:38pm
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| DongBin Choi
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| rò?
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| rù?
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| Rau or Ruh?
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| Praveen Venkataramana
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| 10/31, 1:38pm
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| Praveen Venkataramana
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| i thought w -> f
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| so "Roff"
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| DongBin Choi
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| 10/31, 1:39pm
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| DongBin Choi
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| only syllable initially
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| Praveen Venkataramana
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| 10/31, 1:39pm
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| Praveen Venkataramana
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| rò -> Rau
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| DongBin Choi
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| 10/31, 1:39pm
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| DongBin Choi
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| after a vowel it vocalizes
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| Lecken means lick and Rau means rough
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| it could be Roh
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| raw
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| smile emoticon
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| I like Roh
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| Kohl means cabbage
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| But nothing else means anything as far as I know
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| in german
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Revision as of 03:31, 20 November 2015
Lexicon
| Neckthai |
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| Nékthij dòai |
| Created by | IlL |
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| Setting | Hussmauch |
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| Native speakers | 50 million (2200 v.C.) |
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Neckthai (native name Nékthij dòai) is a Riceneck language with over 50 million speakers. It is the official language of Neckthailand (Nékthijmien)
Phonology
Consonants
Initials
Neckthai initials
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Labial
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Alveolar
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Click
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Palatal
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Velar
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Uvular
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Glottal
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| Nasal
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m /m/
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n /n/
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nǃx /ŋǃ/
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ng /ŋ/
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| Plosive
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plain
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p /p/
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t /t/
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ǃx /ǃ/
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tj /tɕ/
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k /k/
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/ʔ/
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| aspirated
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ph /pʰ/
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th /tʰ/
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ǃxh /ǃʰ/
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tjh /tɕʰ/
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kh /kʰ/
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| voiced
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b /b/
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d /d/
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| Fricative
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v /f/
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z /s/
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g, sch /x/
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h /h/
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| Trill/App.
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w /w/
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j /j/
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r /ʀ~ʁ/
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| Lat. app.
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l /l/
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Allowed initial clusters: pl, pr, phl, phr, vl, vr, tr, thr, ǃxr, ǃxhr, kl, kr, kw, khl, khr, khw
Many speakers in the capital Houwá Thing Vîer merge the pairs /pʀ pʰʀ/, /tʀ tʰʀ/, and /kʀ kʰʀ/. /ǃ(ʰ)ʀ/ is often pronounced as [ǃ(ʰ)]. Some dialects merge /ʀ-/ and /ŋ-/ into a nasalized uvular flap /ʀ̆ⁿ/ or approximant /ʁ̃/ and also simplify all Cr clusters to C.
Finals
Neckthai finals
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Labial
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Alveolar
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Dorsal
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Laryngeal
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| Nasal
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m [m]
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n, l [n]
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ng, r [ŋ]
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| Plosive
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p [p̚]
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t [t̚]
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k [k̚]
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' [ʔ]
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| App.
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(uw [w])
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(i [j])
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Vowels
Monophthongs
Neckthai monophthongs
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Front
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Central
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Back
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| short
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long
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short
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long
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short
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long
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| Close
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i /i/
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ie /iː/
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u /ɯᵝ/
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uu /ɯᵝː/
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oe /uː/
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| Close-mid
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e /e/
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ee /eː/
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eo /ɤ/
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eu /ɤː/
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o /o/
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oo /oː/
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| Open-mid
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æ /ɛ/
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ae /ɛː/
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ọ /ɔ/
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oa /ɔː/
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| Open
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a /ɐ/
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aa /aː/
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Diphthongs
| Long
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Short
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| Neckthai
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IPA
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Neckthai
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IPA
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| aai
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/aːj/
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ij
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/aj/
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| aauw
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/aːw/
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ouw, ou
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/aw/
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| ia
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/iːa/
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ia'
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/ia/
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| ieuw
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/iːw/
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–
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–
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| oea
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/uːa/
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oea'
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/ua/
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| oei
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/uːj/
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–
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–
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| eeuw
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/eːw/
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euw
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/ew/
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| aeuw
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/ɛːw/
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–
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–
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| ua
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/ɯːa/
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ua'
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/ɯa/
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| eui
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/ɤːj/
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ui
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/ɤj/
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| oai
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/ɔːj/
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–
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–
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| ooi
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/oːj/
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oi
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/oj/
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Triphthongs
| Neckthai
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IPA
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| iauw
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/iaw/
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| oeai
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/uaj/
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| uai
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/ɯaj/
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Tones
Standard Neckthai uses 5 tones.
- Mid: raa /ʀāː/ [ʀaː˧] 'easy'
- Low: ràa /ʀàː/ [ʀaː˨˩] 'loud'
- Falling: râa /ʀâː/ [ʀaː˥˩˩] 'fruit'
- High: ráa /ʀáː/ [ʀaː˥] 'white'
- Rising: raaʔ /ʀǎː/ [ʀaː˨˩˦] 'vase'
Orthography
Neckthai is written in a version of the Tergetian abugida.
A kháschàwijjálijn (Gerschweierlein; an analogue to the Thai thanthakhat) is a %-like diacritic that marks consonants that are silenced in the Neckthai pronunciation of Wiebian loanwords. For example, wan 'body; physical object' is written ϕn!ϙ% (wand%, reflecting Wiebian Wande 'body') with a kháschàwijjálijn over the d.
∑ ε - T
Ь ь - G
Ǝ 3 - K
Φ ϕ - W
Ṭ ! - N
Ξ ξ - L
Κ κ - Q
Z z - P
Ϝ ϝ = ʔ
∇ ʋ - Ŧ
T ϯ - Z (zeamhal)
∪ υ - Ḍ
∩ n - Ṭ
Θ θ - Đ
8 ∞ - R
V v - S
W w - ß
Λ⇑ - J
S s - F
- Zegahm
Grammar
Pronouns
- I: khôet
- thou: òer
- we: ngàe
Loanwords
Many Neckthai words are derived from Wiebian and are pronounced close to Ancient Wiebian or early Middle Wiebian. For illustration of how Wiebian loanwords are treated in Neckthai, this is the full name of Houwá Thing Vîer, the capital of Neckthailand:
- Khrúmá ǃXijphen Zàtaalá Vaeʔná Zàtijlen ǃXhruuzenʔ Tràk Zàtrèzèt Khéschàwijʔphét ǃXhijn Théloatèt Kia Wítzàtà ǃXan Wágenʔ Phlátzàtouvenʔ ǃXìjk Trouphen Khéteul Thétphouzèt Houwá Thing Vîer
- /kʰrɯ́ʔmɐ́ʔ ǃāipʰēn sɐ̀ʔtāːlɐ́ʔ fɛ̌ːnɐ́ʔ sɐ̀ʔtāilēn ǃʰʀɯ̄ːsěn tʀɐ̀k | sɐ̀ʔtʀèʔsèt kʰéʔxɐ̀ʔwǎipʰét ǃʰāin | tʰéʔlɔ̄ːtèt kīːɐ wítsɐ̀ʔtɐ̀ʔ ǃɐ̄n wɐ́ʔxěn pʰlɐ́tsɐ̀ʔtāufěn ǃàik | tʀāupʰēn kʰétɤ̄ːn tʰétpʰāusèt hāuwɐ́ʔ tʰīŋ fîːŋ/
- In Wiebian spelling: Grümmerŧeibenstalerfernersteilenđrüßentrachtensträtzesgeschweibesđeinesdelorteskierwisterŧannwachenblatzstaufenŧeischestraubengetöhldesbaußeshauerdinŧ Vîer
- Grümmer-Ŧeiben-Staler-Ferner-Steilen-Đrüßen-Trachten Strätzes-Geschweibes-Đeines Delortes-kier-Wister-Ŧann-Wachen-Blatz-Staufen-Ŧeisches Trauben-Getöhl-Desbaußes-Hauer-Dinŧ Vîer
- ancient harp ??? ??? ??? ??? create-VN art wisdom-DAT shine-VN PL-eon-DAT ten wister marble wall under-royal_subject guard-VN celestial_body splendor PASS-exalt-VN king miracle city
- The miracle of the exalted king of celestial splendor who created paradise, shines in art and wisdom, and guards his subjects in a ten-wister-long eternal marble wall (1 Wister = 20 km)
Derivational morphology