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===Rimes===
===Rimes===
<poem>
(baxter) a, wa, ja, jwa > a, å, ja, jå?
(baxter) a, wa, ja, jwa > a, å, ja, jå?
"i" was ngaX
"i" was ngaX
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yes
yes
actually a, å, ia, iå (i = palatalization)
actually a, å, ia, iå (i = palatalization)
ae, wae, jae > ä, œ, iä (ä = /ε/)
ae, wae, jae > æ, œ,
u, jo, ju > u, , iu
u, jo, ju > u, , iu
(all this assumes the syllable is initial and thus stressed, perhaps there's reduction in unstressed syllables)
(all this assumes the syllable is initial and thus stressed, perhaps there's reduction in unstressed syllables)


what's ø?
as in myuftseezh?
(that's what the <iø> combination makes me think of 😀 )
some kind of front rounded vowel
maybe /œ/
-j final codas: óigh bhféigh, there's a shitton of them
-j final codas: óigh bhféigh, there's a shitton of them


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so is there a vowel split based on tone?
so is there a vowel split based on tone?
ajH and aejH only occur with H
ajH and aejH only occur with H
eaj, aejH > äj
eaj, aejH > æj


ä = finnish ä?
æ = finnish æ?
could be
could be
weaj, waejH > öj
weaj, waejH > œj
jejH, jiejH, jwejH, jwiejH might have the same outcome as je, jie, jwe, jwie
jejH, jiejH, jwejH, jwiejH might have the same outcome as je, jie, jwe, jwie
those finals with -ji- are called chongniu finals
those finals with -ji- are called chongniu finals
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or they could be different
or they could be different
i'll treat jiej like jij and jwiej like jwij
i'll treat jiej like jij and jwiej like jwij
je(j),  jwe(j) > ie, iüö?
je(j),  jwe(j) > /'ie, '/
or maybe /'ie, 'üö/
ej, wej > /ie, yø/
ej, wej > /ie, yø/
or maybe ie and üö should be /e, ø/
or maybe ie and üœ should be /e, ø/
joj, jwoj > /ej, øj/
joj, jwoj > /ej, øj/


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maube all those y's shd really be uj's
maube all those y's shd really be uj's
-jew > -y'hudi 😀
-jew > -y'hudi 😀
aw, aew, jew, jiew, ew, uw, juw, jiw > /aw, äw, 'aw, 'ew, äw, u, 'u, ew/
aw, aew, jew, jiew, ew, uw, juw, jiw > /aw, æw, 'aw, 'ew, æw, u, 'u, ew/


:D
:D
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-ium 😀
-ium 😀
an, wan, aen, waen, ean, wean > an, ån, än, ön, en, øn
an, wan, aen, waen, ean, wean > an, ån, æn, œn, en, øn


ann, uann, ainn, uainn, eann, uainn
ann, uann, ainn, uainn, eann, uainn
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y = hard /i/
y = hard /i/


ngá = I in literal irishy sinitic
:D
ak, wak, jak, jwak > ak, åk, iak, iåk
ak, wak, jak, jwak > ak, åk, iak, iåk
aewk > ?
aewk > ?
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that works
that works
ok, wok, ik, wik > ok, uk, ik, uk
ok, wok, ik, wik > ok, uk, ik, uk
aek, waek, eak, waek > äk, ök, äk, ök
aek, waek, eak, waek > æk, œk, æk, œk
jaek, jwaek > iäk, iök
jaek, jwaek > iæk, iœk
jek jwek ek wek > iek iøk ek øk
jek jwek ek wek > iek iøk ek øk
uwk owk juwk jowk > uk ok iuk iok
uwk owk juwk jowk > uk ok iuk iok
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actually
actually
å will also merge to o
å will also merge to o
</poem>


===Tonality===
===Tonality===