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===Rimes===
===Rimes===
(baxter) a, wa, ja, jwa > a, å, ja, jå?
"i" was ngaX
yes
actually a, å, ia, iå (i = palatalization)
ae, wae, jae > ä, œ/ø, iä (ä = /ε/)
u, jo, ju > u, iø, iu
(all this assumes the syllable is initial and thus stressed, perhaps there's reduction in unstressed syllables)
what's ø?
as in myuftseezh?
(that's what the <iø> combination makes me think of 😀 )
some kind of front rounded vowel
maybe /œ/
-j final codas: óigh bhféigh, there's a shitton of them
:D
oj, ajH > aj
woj, wajH > åj
so is there a vowel split based on tone?
ajH and aejH only occur with H
eaj, aejH > äj
ä = finnish ä?
could be
weaj, waejH > öj
jejH, jiejH, jwejH, jwiejH might have the same outcome as je, jie, jwe, jwie
those finals with -ji- are called chongniu finals
i could merge jiej completely with jej like mandarin does
or they could be different
i'll treat jiej like jij and jwiej like jwij
je(j),  jwe(j) > ie, iüö?
or maybe /'ie, 'üö/
ej, wej > /ie, yø/
or maybe ie and üö should be /e, ø/
joj, jwoj > /ej, øj/
here's something CRAZY
a literally-read irish sinolang
with /aoi/ as a rime
ij, jij, wij, jwij > /i, 'i, y, 'y/
i > /i/
j+j, jw+j > /'i, 'y/
maube all those y's shd really be uj's
-jew > -y'hudi 😀
aw, aew, jew, jiew, ew, uw, juw, jiw > /aw, äw, 'aw, 'ew, äw, u, 'u, ew/
:D
i like -y'hudi
actually sorry
aw, aw, iaw, iew, ew, u, iu, iew
om, am, eam, aem, jem, jiem, jaem, jom, em, im, jim
> um, om, am, am, iem, im, iam, iom, ium, em, im, jim
looks good
(similarly for -p rimes)
-ium 😀
an, wan, aen, waen, ean, wean > an, ån, än, ön, en, øn
ann, uann, ainn, uainn, eann, uainn
in a literal irish version
jen, jwen, jon, jwon > ien, iøn, ion, iun
en, wen, on, won > en, øn, on, un
in, jin, win, jwin, j+n, jun > in, yn, un, iun, in, iun
y = hard /i/
ngá = I in literal irishy sinitic
:D
ak, wak, jak, jwak > ak, åk, iak, iåk
aewk > ?
aoigh
auk?
that works
ok, wok, ik, wik > ok, uk, ik, uk
aek, waek, eak, waek > äk, ök, äk, ök
jaek, jwaek > iäk, iök
jek jwek ek wek > iek iøk ek øk
uwk owk juwk jowk > uk ok iuk iok
i might do something with œ and ø
make them central vowels
maybe merge them to ə
or œ > a, ø > ə
œ > a is interesting
i have a æ e i o u ə in the end - like Rõktiap 😀
actually
å will also merge to o
===Tonality===
===Tonality===
==Orthography==
==Orthography==

Revision as of 23:22, 14 March 2017

Judeo-Chinese is a descendant of Middle Chinese adopted by Chinese Jews in Verse:Tumhan, written in a version of the Hebrew alphabet. Like other Chinese varieties, it is a tonal language and is unintelligible to speakers of other Chinese lects.

Phonology

Initials

Consonant phonemes
Labial Dental Retroflex Velar Laryngeal
broad slender broad slender slender broad
Nasal n̪ˠ ŋʲ ŋ
Stop plain t̪ˠ k ʔ
aspirated pˠʰ pʲʰ t̪ˠʰ tʲʰ kʲʰ
voiced d̪ˠ ɟ g
Affricate plain t̪sˠ tsʲ
aspirated t̪sˠʰ tsʲʰ tʂʰ
voiced d̪zˠ dzʲ
Fricative voiceless ʂ x h
voiced ɣʲ ɣ
Approximant l̪ˠ ɻ j

Rimes

(baxter) a, wa, ja, jwa > a, å, ja, jå? "i" was ngaX

yes actually a, å, ia, iå (i = palatalization) ae, wae, jae > ä, œ/ø, iä (ä = /ε/) u, jo, ju > u, iø, iu (all this assumes the syllable is initial and thus stressed, perhaps there's reduction in unstressed syllables)

what's ø? as in myuftseezh? (that's what the <iø> combination makes me think of 😀 ) some kind of front rounded vowel maybe /œ/ -j final codas: óigh bhféigh, there's a shitton of them

D

oj, ajH > aj woj, wajH > åj

so is there a vowel split based on tone? ajH and aejH only occur with H eaj, aejH > äj

ä = finnish ä? could be weaj, waejH > öj jejH, jiejH, jwejH, jwiejH might have the same outcome as je, jie, jwe, jwie those finals with -ji- are called chongniu finals i could merge jiej completely with jej like mandarin does or they could be different i'll treat jiej like jij and jwiej like jwij je(j), jwe(j) > ie, iüö? or maybe /'ie, 'üö/ ej, wej > /ie, yø/ or maybe ie and üö should be /e, ø/ joj, jwoj > /ej, øj/

here's something CRAZY a literally-read irish sinolang with /aoi/ as a rime ij, jij, wij, jwij > /i, 'i, y, 'y/ i > /i/ j+j, jw+j > /'i, 'y/ maube all those y's shd really be uj's -jew > -y'hudi 😀 aw, aew, jew, jiew, ew, uw, juw, jiw > /aw, äw, 'aw, 'ew, äw, u, 'u, ew/

D

i like -y'hudi actually sorry aw, aw, iaw, iew, ew, u, iu, iew om, am, eam, aem, jem, jiem, jaem, jom, em, im, jim > um, om, am, am, iem, im, iam, iom, ium, em, im, jim

looks good (similarly for -p rimes)

-ium 😀 an, wan, aen, waen, ean, wean > an, ån, än, ön, en, øn

ann, uann, ainn, uainn, eann, uainn in a literal irish version jen, jwen, jon, jwon > ien, iøn, ion, iun en, wen, on, won > en, øn, on, un in, jin, win, jwin, j+n, jun > in, yn, un, iun, in, iun y = hard /i/

ngá = I in literal irishy sinitic

D

ak, wak, jak, jwak > ak, åk, iak, iåk aewk > ?

aoigh auk?

that works ok, wok, ik, wik > ok, uk, ik, uk aek, waek, eak, waek > äk, ök, äk, ök jaek, jwaek > iäk, iök jek jwek ek wek > iek iøk ek øk uwk owk juwk jowk > uk ok iuk iok i might do something with œ and ø make them central vowels maybe merge them to ə or œ > a, ø > ə

œ > a is interesting i have a æ e i o u ə in the end - like Rõktiap 😀 actually å will also merge to o

Tonality

Orthography

Grammar