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==== Causative ====

==== Equative sentences ====

==== Pronouns ====

== Pronouns ==

Pronouns are quite difficult in Vethari. The basic forms, are the Agentive and Patientive affixes on verbs. They usually appear as affixes, but sometimes alone, like answering questions like: Who was it?

The Basic ones are also those who appear in the middle of the verb. For example: ''I'' sent ''him/her/it'' a letter. '''Him''' is considered a basic/first level pronoun, or, oblique pronoun. It is the indirect object of a verb.

I sent him a letter, would be: Tacyirjaposònabuno''lei''. In this case, ''lei'' is the dative indirect object pronoun form of 'le', ''Patientive he/she/it''.

Sometimes, contractions can happen, for example in 'Give it to me': Instead of 'Rutthinapo''tai''l-e', where ''tai'' is the dative indirect object pronoun form of 'ta', ''Agentive ‘I’ '', on older texts, it may be written as 'Rutthinapo''til'' ', but it is pretty rare. Other common (and correct) contraction involves contracting the two pronouns and putting them on both pronoun spots; Subject and Incorporated pronoun. For example: (You) Say sorry to him -> The pronouns are Vi(You, Agentive) and Lei(He/She/It, Dative, Indirect Object) -> Vi + Lei = vlii -> Instead of ‘Vitthireilei’ -> Vliitthireivlii.

Other basic pronouns include the ones that follow adpositions. For example: It’s not for you: Lecyisurimu'ris', where 'ris' is the dative direct object pronoun form of 'ru', ''Patientive you''.

Reflexive and Reciprocal pronouns also exist, for example: Write the text yourself!: Vitthittuugipu'vou', where 'vou' is the reflexive form of 'vi', ''Agentive you''. If in case of the object already being mentioned before, when replaced by 'it' then, it would appear in the default form after the first pronoun, being literally: Write yourself it. In this case, the phrase would be: Vitthittuvoul-e. Yes, when pronouns are clitics or just appear after, the first phoneme is transferred into the final of that group of affixes, so 'le', would be 'l-e', as seen in the example, however, this does not affect the pronunciation.

Clitics are pronouns that don’t have specific slots inside the complex of affixes, so it is put at the end, maybe with even 2 other more pronouns, or maybe contracted with all others. So, if there are three pronouns referring to one verb like: May you cook for us, her and them! (Literally: May you cook for us, her, them), would be: Visorlìjujoul-eirl-ou instead of Visorlìjujoul-ei-rlou, …-lei-rlou or …-l-ei-rl-ou or whatever. In this case, it can also be contracted: vi + jou + lei + rlou = vyourlei, so -> Vyourleisorlìjuvyourlei, however, this is unpractical and inconvenient, although correct.

Sometimes, when a clitic ends up somewhere where can’t be that specific cluster, an 'a' is put in the middle, if a consonant cluster, however if a big vowel cluster, a 'l' is put in between.

It is pretty easy to form possession pronouns, just add the particle 'nilo' before. For example: Nilo vi -> Your.

=== Nouns ===

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 ==== Causative ====
 ==== Equative sentences ====
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+== Pronouns ==
+Pronouns are quite difficult in Vethari. The basic forms, are the Agentive and Patientive affixes on verbs. They usually appear as affixes, but sometimes alone, like answering questions like: Who was it?
+The Basic ones are also those who appear in the middle of the verb. For example: ''I'' sent ''him/her/it'' a letter. '''Him''' is considered a basic/first level pronoun, or, oblique pronoun. It is the indirect object of a verb.
+I sent him a letter, would be: Tacyirjaposònabuno''lei''. In this case, ''lei'' is the dative indirect object pronoun form of 'le', ''Patientive he/she/it''.
+Sometimes, contractions can happen, for example in 'Give it to me': Instead of 'Rutthinapo''tai''l-e', where ''tai'' is the dative indirect object pronoun form of 'ta', ''Agentive ‘I’ '', on older texts, it may be written as 'Rutthinapo''til'' ', but it is pretty rare. Other common (and correct) contraction involves contracting the two pronouns and putting them on both pronoun spots; Subject and Incorporated pronoun. For example: (You) Say sorry to him -> The pronouns are Vi(You, Agentive) and Lei(He/She/It, Dative, Indirect Object) -> Vi + Lei = vlii -> Instead of ‘Vitthireilei’ -> Vliitthireivlii.
+Other basic pronouns include the ones that follow adpositions. For example: It’s not for you: Lecyisurimu'ris', where 'ris' is the dative direct object pronoun form of 'ru', ''Patientive you''.
+Reflexive and Reciprocal pronouns also exist, for example: Write the text yourself!: Vitthittuugipu'vou', where 'vou' is the reflexive form of 'vi', ''Agentive you''. If in case of the object already being mentioned before, when replaced by 'it' then, it would appear in the default form after the first pronoun, being literally: Write yourself it. In this case, the phrase would be: Vitthittuvoul-e. Yes, when pronouns are clitics or just appear after, the first phoneme is transferred into the final of that group of affixes, so 'le', would be 'l-e', as seen in the example, however, this does not affect the pronunciation.
+Clitics are pronouns that don’t have specific slots inside the complex of affixes, so it is put at the end, maybe with even 2 other more pronouns, or maybe contracted with all others. So, if there are three pronouns referring to one verb like: May you cook for us, her and them! (Literally: May you cook for us, her, them), would be: Visorlìjujoul-eirl-ou instead of Visorlìjujoul-ei-rlou, …-lei-rlou or …-l-ei-rl-ou or whatever. In this case, it can also be contracted: vi + jou + lei + rlou = vyourlei, so -> Vyourleisorlìjuvyourlei, however, this is unpractical and inconvenient, although correct.
+Sometimes, when a clitic ends up somewhere where can’t be that specific cluster, an 'a' is put in the middle, if a consonant cluster, however if a big vowel cluster, a 'l' is put in between.
+It is pretty easy to form possession pronouns, just add the particle 'nilo' before. For example:  Nilo vi -> Your.
 === Nouns ===