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[[Neckthai/Lexicon|Lexicon]]
#redirect [[Neck Thai]]
 
{{Infobox language
|creator = [[User:IlL|IlL]]
|name = {{PAGENAME}}
|nativename = Nékthij dòai
|region = Nékthijmien
|setting = Hussmauch
|states =
|speakers = 50 million
|date = 2200 v.C.
|familycolor=Tai-Kadai
|fam1=Riceneck
|script=Neckthai abugida
}}
 
'''Neckthai''' (native name ''Nékthij dòai'') is a Riceneck language with over 50 million speakers. It is the official language of Neckthailand (''Nékthijmien'')
==Phonology==
===Consonants===
====Initials====
{| border="1" cellpadding="1" cellspacing="1" class="bluetable lightbluebg" style="width: 700px; text-align:center;"
|+ '''{{PAGENAME}} initials'''
|-
! colspan="2" |
!  |Labial
!  |Alveolar
!  |Click
!  |Palatal
!  |Velar
!  |Uvular
!  |Glottal
|-
! colspan="2" style="" |Nasal
| '''m''' /m/
| '''n''' /n/
| '''nǃx''' /ŋǃ/
|
| '''ng''' /ŋ/
|
|
|-
! rowspan="3" |Plosive
!|<small>plain</small>
| '''p''' /p/
| '''t''' /t/
| '''ǃx''' /ǃ/
| '''tj''' /tɕ/
| '''k''' /k/
|
| /ʔ/
|-
!|<small>aspirated</small>
| '''ph''' /pʰ/
| '''th''' /tʰ/
| '''ǃxh''' /ǃʰ/
| '''tjh''' /tɕʰ/
| '''kh''' /kʰ/
|
|
|-
!|<small>voiced</small>
| '''b''' /b/
| '''d''' /d/
|
|
|
|
|
|-
! colspan="2" style="" |Fricative
| '''v''' /f/
| '''z''' /s/
|
|
| '''g, sch''' /x/
|
| '''h''' /h/
|-
! colspan="2"|Trill/App.
| '''w''' /w/
|
|
| '''j''' /j/
|
| '''r''' /ʀ~ʁ/
|
|-
! colspan="2" |Lat. app.
|
| '''l''' /l/
|
|
|
|
|
|}
 
Allowed initial clusters: '''pl, pr, phl, phr, vl, vr, tr, thr, ǃxr, ǃxhr, kl, kr, kw, khl, khr, khw'''
 
Many speakers in the capital Houwá Thing Vîer merge the pairs /pʀ pʰʀ/, /tʀ tʰʀ/, and /kʀ kʰʀ/. /ǃ(ʰ)ʀ/ is often pronounced as [ǃ(ʰ)]. Some dialects merge /ʀ-/ and /ŋ-/ into a nasalized uvular flap /ʀ̆ⁿ/ or approximant /ʁ&#771;/ and also simplify all Cr clusters to C.
 
====Finals====
{| border="1" cellpadding="1" cellspacing="1" class="bluetable lightbluebg" style="width: 700px; text-align:center;"
|+ '''{{PAGENAME}} finals'''
|-
! colspan="2" |
!  |Labial
!  |Alveolar
!  |Dorsal
!  |Laryngeal
|-
! colspan="2" style="" |Nasal
| '''m''' [m]
| '''n, l''' [n]
| '''ng, r''' [ŋ]
|
|-
! colspan="2" |Plosive
| '''p''' [p&#794;]
| '''t''' [t&#794;]
| '''k''' [k&#794;]
| ''' ' ''' [ʔ]
|-
! colspan="2" |App.
| ('''uw''' [w])
|
| ('''i''' [j])
|
|}
 
===Vowels===
====Monophthongs====
 
{| border="1" cellpadding="1" cellspacing="1" class="bluetable lightbluebg" style="width: 540px; text-align:center;"
|+ '''{{PAGENAME}} monophthongs'''
|-
! rowspan="2" style="width: 90px; "|
! colspan="2" style="width: 90px; " |Front
! colspan="2" style="width: 90px; " |Central
! colspan="2" style="width: 90px; " |Back
|-
!style="width: 45px; "|<small>short</small>
!style="width: 45px; "|<small>long</small>
!style="width: 45px; "|<small>short</small>
!style="width: 45px; "|<small>long</small>
!style="width: 45px; "|<small>short</small>
!style="width: 45px; "|<small>long</small>
|-
! style="" |Close
| '''i''' /i/
| '''ie''' /iː/
| '''u''' /ɯᵝ/
| '''uu''' /ɯᵝː/
|
| '''oe''' /uː/
|-
! style="" |Close-mid
| '''e''' /e/
| '''ee''' /eː/
| '''eo''' /ɤ/
| '''eu''' /ɤː/
| '''o''' /o/
| '''oo''' /oː/
|-
! style="" |Open-mid
| '''æ''' /ɛ/
| '''ae''' /ɛː/
|
|
| '''ọ''' /ɔ/
| '''oa''' /ɔː/
|-
! style="" |Open
|
|
| '''a''' /ɐ/
| '''aa''' /aː/
|
|
|}
 
====Diphthongs====
 
{|class="bluetable lightbluebg"
|-
!colspan="2"|Long
!colspan="2"|Short
|-
!Neckthai
!IPA
!Neckthai
!IPA
|-
|'''aai'''
|{{IPA|/aːj/}}
|'''ij'''
|{{IPA|/aj/}}
|-
|'''aauw'''
|{{IPA|/aːw/}}
|'''ouw, ou'''
|{{IPA|/aw/}}
|-
|'''ia'''
|{{IPA|/iːa/}}
|'''ia' '''
|{{IPA|/ia/}}
|-
|'''ieuw'''
|{{IPA|/iːw/}}
|–
|–
|-
|'''oea'''
|{{IPA|/uːa/}}
|'''oea' '''
|{{IPA|/ua/}}
|-
|'''oei'''
|{{IPA|/uːj/}}
|–
|–
|-
|'''eeuw'''
|{{IPA|/eːw/}}
|'''euw'''
|{{IPA|/ew/}}
|-
|'''aeuw'''
|{{IPA|/ɛːw/}}
|–
|–
|-
|'''ua'''
|{{IPA|/ɯːa/}}
|'''ua' '''
|{{IPA|/ɯa/}}
|-
|'''eui'''
|{{IPA|/ɤːj/}}
|'''ui'''
|{{IPA|/ɤj/}}
|-
|'''oai'''
|{{IPA|/ɔːj/}}
|–
|–
|-
|'''ooi'''
|{{IPA|/oːj/}}
|'''oi'''
|{{IPA|/oj/}}
|}
 
====Triphthongs====
{|class="bluetable lightbluebg"
|-
!Neckthai
!IPA
|-
|'''iauw'''
|{{IPA|/iaw/}}
|-
|'''oeai'''
|{{IPA|/uaj/}}
|-
|'''uai'''
|{{IPA|/ɯaj/}}
|}
 
===Tones===
Standard Neckthai uses 5 tones.
*Mid: ''raa'' /ʀāː/ [ʀaː˧] 'easy'
*Low: ''ràa'' /ʀàː/ [ʀaː˨˩] 'loud'
*Falling: ''râa'' /ʀâː/ [ʀaː˥˩˩] 'fruit'
*High: ''ráa'' /ʀáː/ [ʀaː˥] 'white'
*Rising: ''raaʔ'' /ʀǎː/ [ʀaː˨˩˦] 'vase'
 
==Orthography==
Neckthai is written in a version of the [[Tergetian]] abugida.
 
A ''kháschàwijjálijn'' (''Gerschweierlein''; an analogue to the Thai ''thanthakhat'') is a %-like diacritic that marks consonants that are silenced in the Neckthai pronunciation of Wiebian loanwords. For example, ''wan'' 'body; physical object' is written ϕ<sub>n</sub>!ϙ<sup>%</sup> (''wand<sup>%</sup>'', reflecting Wiebian ''Wande'' 'body') with a ''kháschàwijjálijn'' over the ''d''.
 
<poem>
∑ε - T
upside down P, ⊥- G
Ǝ 3 - K
Φ ϕ - W
Ṭ ! - N
(I mean turned P)
Ξ ξ - L
I would use kappa
Κ κ - Q
Z z - Pfegied
I wouldn't use face for Ang
perhaps Ϝ ϝ
∇ʋ - Ŧ
Or what about this for G: Ь ь
Praveen Venkataramana
10/31, 12:59pm
Praveen Venkataramana
good
DongBin Choi
10/31, 1:00pm
DongBin Choi
let's make all of them unicode symbols
and superscripts/subscripts
Praveen Venkataramana
10/31, 1:00pm
Praveen Venkataramana
so neckthai and terg can be written with unicode!
DongBin Choi
10/31, 1:01pm
DongBin Choi
maybe not
only when you have subscripts and superscripbs
Praveen Venkataramana
10/31, 1:01pm
Praveen Venkataramana
unicode has a few superscripts and subscripts
tσæba sounds too much like ŧèabh
DongBin Choi
10/31, 1:02pm
DongBin Choi
i could use the superscript x for instance
Praveen Venkataramana
10/31, 1:02pm
Praveen Venkataramana
i'll change it as it's a Vrūszka word
σværa will be ʈ as the first clocks were pendulum clocks
I still have to work on Vrūszka aesthetics
will you have turned pi for śneadha?
DongBin Choi
10/31, 1:04pm
DongBin Choi
there is no lowercase turned pi
so i might not
Praveen Venkataramana
10/31, 1:05pm
Praveen Venkataramana
use "u" grin emoticon
DongBin Choi
10/31, 1:05pm
DongBin Choi
good
Praveen Venkataramana
10/31, 1:06pm
Praveen Venkataramana
though lowercase turned pi looks really math gibby
i like it way too much
what do you have for qrìdh?
DongBin Choi
10/31, 1:08pm
DongBin Choi
Kappa
Praveen Venkataramana
10/31, 1:09pm
Praveen Venkataramana
leaqhan is xi
DongBin Choi
10/31, 1:09pm
DongBin Choi
yes
Praveen Venkataramana
10/31, 1:10pm
Praveen Venkataramana
zeamhal = lambda?
DongBin Choi
10/31, 1:10pm
DongBin Choi
yes
Praveen Venkataramana
10/31, 1:11pm
Praveen Venkataramana
actually ϯ is better
ḍaoi = ?
that could be union
DongBin Choi
10/31, 1:12pm
DongBin Choi
Union, lowercase upsilon
Praveen Venkataramana
10/31, 1:12pm
Praveen Venkataramana
but what happens to śnadha?
DongBin Choi
10/31, 1:13pm
DongBin Choi
Cyrillic ts?
for lowercase
Praveen Venkataramana
10/31, 1:13pm
Praveen Venkataramana
good
DongBin Choi
10/31, 1:15pm
DongBin Choi
Tazàr: ∩ n
Praveen Venkataramana
10/31, 1:15pm
Praveen Venkataramana
đrùcha = ?
DongBin Choi
10/31, 1:16pm
DongBin Choi
theta
Praveen Venkataramana
10/31, 1:16pm
Praveen Venkataramana
reaphaṭ = ?
not phi
DongBin Choi
10/31, 1:17pm
DongBin Choi
pretty difficult
i should change it
Praveen Venkataramana
10/31, 1:17pm
Praveen Venkataramana
yes
ipa gib is much easier than math gib smile emoticon
DongBin Choi
10/31, 1:18pm
DongBin Choi
beta?
Praveen Venkataramana
10/31, 1:18pm
Praveen Venkataramana
yes
DongBin Choi
10/31, 1:20pm
DongBin Choi
ß: shcha
ßiłß grin emoticon
Praveen Venkataramana
10/31, 1:20pm
Praveen Venkataramana
or just sha
looks like the shafarevich-tate group
DongBin Choi
10/31, 1:21pm
DongBin Choi
Ш ш
Praveen Venkataramana
10/31, 1:22pm
Praveen Venkataramana
yes
actually it looks more hebrew-ish than mathy
aestheticwise
DongBin Choi
10/31, 1:23pm
DongBin Choi
what about something else for S
V v
Praveen Venkataramana
10/31, 1:23pm
Praveen Venkataramana
then W for discherschnade
that's good
DongBin Choi
10/31, 1:23pm
DongBin Choi
then eszett can be w
no more upside down pi frown emoticon
Praveen Venkataramana
10/31, 1:24pm
Praveen Venkataramana
that could be R
or Ḍ
DongBin Choi
10/31, 1:27pm
DongBin Choi
what should I use for jamm?
Lambda?
Λ λ
for house
Praveen Venkataramana
10/31, 1:27pm
Praveen Venkataramana
yes
or an arrow!
Λ⇑
DongBin Choi
10/31, 1:29pm
DongBin Choi
What about Fitt
Praveen Venkataramana
10/31, 1:30pm
Praveen Venkataramana
integral?
small s
DongBin Choi
10/31, 1:30pm
DongBin Choi
yes
then I'll have to change my o
Zamm is pi
the name might be changed
Praveen Venkataramana
10/31, 1:32pm
Praveen Venkataramana
'house'?
DongBin Choi
10/31, 1:33pm
DongBin Choi
Zefahm?
Praveen Venkataramana
10/31, 1:33pm
Praveen Venkataramana
that's jamm grin emoticon
zeaphàmh?
DongBin Choi
10/31, 1:33pm
DongBin Choi
seaphàmh
Praveen Venkataramana
10/31, 1:33pm
Praveen Venkataramana
tent?
DongBin Choi
10/31, 1:34pm
DongBin Choi
actually I like zegahm better
seaghàmh
Praveen Venkataramana
10/31, 1:34pm
Praveen Venkataramana
yes
DongBin Choi
10/31, 1:35pm
DongBin Choi
Rift?
what about R
Praveen Venkataramana
10/31, 1:35pm
Praveen Venkataramana
R was ɸ
DongBin Choi
10/31, 1:36pm
DongBin Choi
we don't want that
that's wier now
I'll change the name
Praveen Venkataramana
10/31, 1:36pm
Praveen Venkataramana
∞?
capital letter 8
DongBin Choi
10/31, 1:36pm
DongBin Choi
8∞
then we could have superscript infinity for vocalized r in neck thai
Praveen Venkataramana
10/31, 1:37pm
Praveen Venkataramana
yes
cloud
*rōwom?
ròf
DongBin Choi
10/31, 1:38pm
DongBin Choi
rò?
rù?
Rau or Ruh?
Praveen Venkataramana
10/31, 1:38pm
Praveen Venkataramana
i thought w -> f
so "Roff"
DongBin Choi
10/31, 1:39pm
DongBin Choi
only syllable initially
Praveen Venkataramana
10/31, 1:39pm
Praveen Venkataramana
rò -> Rau
DongBin Choi
10/31, 1:39pm
DongBin Choi
after a vowel it vocalizes
Lecken means lick and Rau means rough
it could be Roh
raw
smile emoticon
I like Roh
Kohl means cabbage
But nothing else means anything as far as I know
in german
</poem>
 
==Grammar==
===Pronouns===
*I: ''khôet''
*thou: ''òer''
*we: ''ngàe''
 
==Loanwords==
Many {{PAGENAME}} words are derived from Wiebian and are pronounced close to [[Ancient Wiebian]] or early Middle Wiebian. For illustration of how [[Wiebian]] loanwords are treated in {{PAGENAME}}, this is the full name of Houwá Thing Vîer, the capital of Neckthailand:
 
:'''''Khrúmá ǃXijphen Zàtaalá Vaeʔná Zàtijlen ǃXhruuzenʔ Tràk Zàtrèzèt Khéschàwijʔphét ǃXhijn Théloatèt Kia Wítzàtà ǃXan Wágenʔ Phlátzàtouvenʔ ǃXìjk Trouphen Khéteul Thétphouzèt Houwá Thing Vîer'''''
:/kʰrɯ́ʔmɐ́ʔ ǃāipʰēn sɐ̀ʔtāːlɐ́ʔ fɛ̌ːnɐ́ʔ sɐ̀ʔtāilēn ǃʰʀɯ̄ːsěn tʀɐ̀k | sɐ̀ʔtʀèʔsèt kʰéʔxɐ̀ʔwǎipʰét ǃʰāin | tʰéʔlɔ̄ːtèt kīːɐ wítsɐ̀ʔtɐ̀ʔ ǃɐ̄n wɐ́ʔxěn pʰlɐ́tsɐ̀ʔtāufěn ǃàik | tʀāupʰēn kʰétɤ̄ːn tʰétpʰāusèt hāuwɐ́ʔ tʰīŋ fîːŋ/
:In [[Wiebian]] spelling: ''Grümmerŧeibenstalerfernersteilenđrüßentrachtensträtzesgeschweibesđeinesdelorteskierwisterŧannwachenblatzstaufenŧeischestraubengetöhldesbaußeshauerdinŧ Vîer''
:<small>Grümmer-Ŧeiben-Staler-Ferner-Steilen-Đrüßen-Trachten Strätzes-Geschweibes-Đeines Delortes-kier-Wister-Ŧann-Wachen-Blatz-Staufen-Ŧeisches Trauben-Getöhl-Desbaußes-Hauer-Dinŧ Vîer</small>
:<small>ancient harp ??? ??? ??? ??? create-VN art wisdom-DAT shine-VN PL-eon-DAT ten wister marble wall under-royal_subject guard-VN celestial_body splendor PASS-exalt-VN king miracle city</small>
:''The miracle of the exalted king of celestial splendor who created paradise, shines in art and wisdom, and guards his subjects in a ten-wister-long eternal marble wall (1 Wister = 20 km)''
 
==Derivational morphology==
 
[[Category:Pseudo-Germanic]][[Category:Hussmauch]]

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