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The '''~~Imthumăytil~~''' (''~~Investigations~~'') ~~are~~ a collection of stories, anecdotes, parables, and ~~lectures~~, in [[~~Windermere~~|Classical ~~Windermere~~]].

The '''Imθumăytil''' (CWdm: /imtʰuməjˈtil/, lit. 'Delvings' or 'Inquiries', Modern ''Imthumitil'') is a collection of stories, anecdotes, parables, songs, lectures and sermons, in [[Naeng/Classical|Classical Naeng]]. Some passages are in [[Tseer/Classical|Classical Tseer]].

==Todo==

*Scientific concepts?

*Imperial commentators of the Imthumăytil should make all kinds of convoluted justifications of ~~these~~ doctrines in terms of preexisting myths and symbols

**atoms? evolution?

*Imperial commentators of the Imthumăytil should make all kinds of convoluted justifications of their doctrines in terms of preexisting myths and symbols

Perhaps these are too mathy and mystical for Mărotłism but:

*Something based on symmetry? wallpapers and platonic solids are easy examples

*Something geometrical?

==The round table==

''~~Doan ngith,~~ dur ~~id tach cheth mi~~ mogor ~~lăytheath~~. ~~Enwiets Păda Brăwied:~~ "~~Mea ra łănam runse~~?"''

''Ngiiθ dur mogor se taχ χaaθ. "Măra łĭnam?" tăbits φin Pĭda Brăwid. Mi-ăngnuung căχθaaθ năθa emrĭtsal sen doon: "Șrüχ te-stiiw: taχ mognas, θaφ te-müts θraaφ, liw stăliiw, θaφ te-müts sălmeχ, taχ mălüüts, doon tălaχ." "Ǎna mee ra, srü hĭdeen croθ năθa?" tăbits φin Pĭda Brăwid. "Op cănga, φin Pĭda: tsor pădiχ φnărtaang, te ămsaχ păχwădiχ năθa ya φin croθ φi!" eφθooc φin χaaθ. "Ăruy șa-χaaθ ses tsărüng φănaw φănaw." esngim șa φin χaaθ φin Pĭda Brăwid.''

====Translation====

~~one time, sit NOM six child in circle VN.discuss~~. ~~PFV~~-~~ask Master B.~~: "~~many what 2PL here?"~~

Once, six children were in a round table. Master Brăwiid asked them: "How many of you are here?"

~~Once, six children were in a round table. Master Brăwied asked them: "How many of you are here?"~~

~~''Roac ăngnung imcheth nătha, emcă'aw doan: "Müeșrüch~~ te-~~stiw~~: ~~tsin tach~~ mognas, ~~șrüch~~ te-~~stiw thref~~, ~~șrüch~~ te-~~chloas chustiw..."''~~

~~when PROG-count PL-child other answer one: 63 because six individual, 15 pair~~, ~~20 group_of_3~~

~~While the others were still counting~~, ~~one child replied: "Sixty-three: 6 individuals, 15 teams of two, 20 teams of 3, ..~~."

~~''Łop enwiets Păda Brăwied:~~ "Ǎna ~~mea~~ ra ~~moach~~, ~~srüe hădean do croth nătha~~?"''

~~then PFV-ask~~ Master B.: "~~then~~ many ~~what be_at, if enter one person other~~"

~~So Master Brăwied asked~~: "~~Well then~~, ~~how many people will be there if another person enters?~~"

While the others were still counting, one child replied: "Sixty-three: 6 individuals, 15 teams of 2, 20 teams of 3, 15 teams of 4, 6 teams of 5, and 1 team of 6."

~~''Emcă'aw id ceth ăfăyfay,~~ "~~Op călu Păda, ho-bang tsor tăy'uag paleac~~, ~~sach făbeang imtăy'uag nătha ya-croth mălem fi!~~"''

Now Master Brăwiid asked: "Well then, how many people will be there if another person enters?"

~~PFV-answer NOM~~ child ~~just~~ "here ~~clear master, to-us~~ all ~~team previous~~, ~~as_well_as <REFL>form PL-team other~~ with-person ~~new that~~"

The child said: "It is plain, Master: here we have all of the old teams, as well as another set of teams with the new person!"

~~The~~ child ~~nonchalantly responded: "See~~, ~~it is plain~~, ~~Master: we have all of the old teams, as well as another set of teams with the new person!~~"

Master Brăwiid praised the child, saying, "This child has wisdom indeed."

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===Notes===

The notion of choosing subsets from six items may have been a metaphor for cooking. The ~~Windermereans~~ recognized 6 basic tastes (sweet, sour, salty, bitter, spicy, umami), and each combination is essentially a taste on its own. The mystic [[Verse:Tricin/Etsoj Jopah|Etsoj Jopah]] interpreted the parable as a recipe for building a just intonation scale from prime factors, thus introducing Combination Product Sets into Talman music.

The notion of choosing subsets from six items may have been a metaphor for cooking. The Naeng recognized 6 basic tastes (sweet, sour, salty, bitter, spicy, umami), and each combination is essentially a taste on its own. The mystic [[Verse:Tricin/Etsoj Jopah|Etsoj Jopah]] interpreted the parable as a recipe for building a just intonation scale from prime factors, thus introducing Combination Product Sets into Talman music.

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-The '''Imthumăytil''' (''Investigations'') are a collection of stories, anecdotes, parables, and lectures, in [[Windermere|Classical Windermere]].
+The '''Imθumăytil''' (CWdm: /imtʰuməjˈtil/, lit. 'Delvings' or 'Inquiries', Modern ''Imthumitil'') is a collection of stories, anecdotes, parables, songs, lectures and sermons, in [[Naeng/Classical|Classical Naeng]]. Some passages are in [[Tseer/Classical|Classical Tseer]].
 ==Todo==
 *Scientific concepts?
-*Imperial commentators of the Imthumăytil should make all kinds of convoluted justifications of these doctrines in terms of preexisting myths and symbols
+**atoms? evolution?
+*Imperial commentators of the Imthumăytil should make all kinds of convoluted justifications of their doctrines in terms of preexisting myths and symbols
+Perhaps these are too mathy and mystical for Mărotłism but:
+*Something based on symmetry? wallpapers and platonic solids are easy examples
+*Something geometrical?
 ==The round table==
-''Doan ngith, dur id tach cheth mi mogor lăytheath. Enwiets Păda Brăwied: "Mea ra łănam runse?"''
+''Ngiiθ dur mogor se taχ χaaθ. "Măra łĭnam?" tăbits φin Pĭda Brăwid. Mi-ăngnuung căχθaaθ năθa emrĭtsal sen doon: "Șrüχ te-stiiw: taχ mognas, θaφ te-müts θraaφ, liw stăliiw, θaφ te-müts sălmeχ, taχ mălüüts, doon tălaχ." "Ǎna mee ra, srü hĭdeen croθ năθa?" tăbits φin Pĭda Brăwid. "Op cănga, φin Pĭda: tsor pădiχ φnărtaang, te ămsaχ păχwădiχ năθa ya φin croθ φi!" eφθooc φin χaaθ. "Ăruy șa-χaaθ ses tsărüng φănaw φănaw." esngim șa φin χaaθ φin Pĭda Brăwid.''
+====Translation====
-one time, sit NOM six child in circle VN.discuss. PFV-ask Master B.: "many what 2PL here?"
+Once, six children were in a round table. Master Brăwiid asked them: "How many of you are here?"
-Once, six children were in a round table. Master Brăwied asked them: "How many of you are here?"
-''Roac ăngnung imcheth nătha, emcă'aw doan: "Müeșrüch te-stiw: tsin tach mognas, șrüch te-stiw thref, șrüch te-chloas chustiw..."''
-when PROG-count PL-child other answer one: 63 because six individual, 15 pair, 20 group_of_3
-While the others were still counting, one child replied: "Sixty-three: 6 individuals, 15 teams of two, 20 teams of 3, ..."
-''Łop enwiets Păda Brăwied: "Ǎna mea ra moach, srüe hădean do croth nătha?"''
-then PFV-ask Master B.: "then many what be_at, if enter one person other"
-So Master Brăwied asked: "Well then, how many people will be there if another person enters?"
+While the others were still counting, one child replied: "Sixty-three: 6 individuals, 15 teams of 2, 20 teams of 3, 15 teams of 4, 6 teams of 5, and 1 team of 6."
-''Emcă'aw id ceth ăfăyfay, "Op călu Păda, ho-bang tsor tăy'uag paleac, sach făbeang imtăy'uag nătha ya-croth mălem fi!"''
+Now Master Brăwiid asked: "Well then, how many people will be there if another person enters?"
-PFV-answer NOM child just "here clear master, to-us all team previous, as_well_as <REFL>form PL-team other with-person new that"
+The child said: "It is plain, Master: here we have all of the old teams, as well as another set of teams with the new person!"
-The child nonchalantly responded: "See, it is plain, Master: we have all of the old teams, as well as another set of teams with the new person!"
+Master Brăwiid praised the child, saying, "This child has wisdom indeed."
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 ===Notes===
-The notion of choosing subsets from six items may have been a metaphor for cooking. The Windermereans recognized 6 basic tastes (sweet, sour, salty, bitter, spicy, umami), and each combination is essentially a taste on its own. The mystic [[Verse:Tricin/Etsoj Jopah|Etsoj Jopah]] interpreted the parable as a recipe for building a just intonation scale from prime factors, thus introducing Combination Product Sets into Talman music.
+The notion of choosing subsets from six items may have been a metaphor for cooking. The Naeng recognized 6 basic tastes (sweet, sour, salty, bitter, spicy, umami), and each combination is essentially a taste on its own. The mystic [[Verse:Tricin/Etsoj Jopah|Etsoj Jopah]] interpreted the parable as a recipe for building a just intonation scale from prime factors, thus introducing Combination Product Sets into Talman music.