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'''NOTICE: Documentation moved to [https://mwail.miraheze.org/wiki/Netagin Mwail Miraheze].'''
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:''This article describes Classical Netagin. See subpages for the modern vernacular lects.''


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In Hmøøh, '''Netagin''' (English: net-ə-GHEEN; natively ''ne Nătahin'' [nɛː nətɐːˈɦiːːn]; [[Nurian]]: ''xi Nteahem''; [[Naeng]]: ''fi brits Intăgin''; [[Eevo]]: ''a łynǿñ Yntyjín'') is a major [[Bjeheond]]ian language and an isolate within the [[Idavic languages|Idavic]] language family. It is native to [[Verse:Hmøøh/Tumhan|Tumhan]] (Netagin: ''Tumhan'' /tʉmˈɦan/). Classical Netagin has influenced [[Naeng]], [[Nurian]] and [[Ksieh]]. Netagin is intended to be optimized for writing poems in Hebrew piyyut meters (without being a Hebrew giblang): like Hebrew, Netagin has triconsonantal morphology, final stress and stressed suffixes, so that it is natural to rhyme by having the last syllables the same like in Jewish piyyutim. It tends to be verb-initial and head-initial like Hebrew, and its morphosyntactic alignment is split-S and predicate-first with some Austronesian elements. Netagin is the most grammatically conservative extant branch of Idavic, because it has preserved Proto-Idavic triconsonantal morphology and morphosyntax. Despite being a head-initial language like most Talman languages including [[Naeng]] and [[Talmic languages]], as well as Hebrew and Irish, Classical Netagin grammar is meant to have some alien features even to speakers of these languages. Hebrew is a heavy inspiration for the diachronics, however (except postvocalic lenition).
'''Netagin''' (English: net-ə-GHEEN; natively ''ne Nătahin'' [nɛː nətɐːˈɦiːːn]) is an isolate within the [[Idavic languages|Idavic]] language family. It is native to [[Verse:Tricin/Tumhan|Tumhan]] (Netagin: ''Tumhan'' /tʉmˈɦan/). Netagin is intended to be optimized for writing poems in Hebrew piyyut meters (without being a Hebrew giblang): like Hebrew, Netagin has triconsonantal morphology, final stress and stressed suffixes, so that it is natural to rhyme by having the last syllables the same like in Jewish piyyutim. It tends to be verb-initial and head-initial like Hebrew, and its morphosyntactic alignment is split-S and predicate-first. Netagin is the most grammatically conservative extant branch of Idavic, because it has preserved Proto-Idavic triconsonantal morphology and morphosyntax. Despite being a head-initial language like Hebrew and Irish, Netagin grammar is meant to have some alien features even to speakers of these languages. Hebrew is a heavy inspiration for the diachronics, however (except postvocalic lenition).


This article describes Classical Netagin which is used for special effect in modern times, e.g. in classical Netagin music and poetry. The standard variety today is [[Šinax Netagin]], spoken in Bjeheond's capital Șinach (''Šinax'') and in Cualuav's Andaegor, though there are many other mutually unintelligible Netagin varieties.
This is the seventh version of Netagin. Its aesthetic is inspired by Hebrew, Maltese, Czech/Slovak, Middle Vietnamese and [[Naeng]]. Its morphology is inspired by Semitic, its morphosyntax by Lushootseed, and its motion verbs by Slavic.
 
This is the seventh version of Netagin. Its aesthetic is inspired by Hebrew, Maltese, Czech/Slovak, Middle Vietnamese and [[Naeng]]. Its morphology is inspired by Semitic, its morphosyntax by Lushootseed and Austronesian, and its motion verbs by Slavic.


==Todo==
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! |Labial
! |Labial
! |Dental
! |Lamino-dental
! | Alveolar
! |Apico-alveolar
! |Retroflex
! |Palatal
! |Palatal
! |Velar
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! colspan="2" |Nasal
! colspan="2" |Nasal
| |'''m''' /m/
| |'''m''' /m/
|colspan=4|'''n''' /n̪~n~ɳ~ɲ/
|colspan=3|'''n''' /n̪~n~ɳ~ɲ/
| |'''l''' /ŋ/
| |'''l''' /ŋ/
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|'''p''' /p/
|'''p''' /p/
|'''ť''' /t̪~c{{adv}}/
|'''ť''' /t̪~c{{adv}}/
|colspan=2|'''t''' /t~ʈ/
|'''t''' /t~ʈ/
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|'''k''' /k/
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|'''b''' /b/
|'''b''' /b/
|'''ď''' /d̪~ɟ{{adv}}/
|'''ď''' /d̪~ɟ{{adv}}/
|colspan=2|'''d''' /d~ɖ/
|'''d''' /d~ɖ/
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|'''s''' /s̠/
|'''s''' /s̠/
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|'''š''' /ʃ/
|'''š''' /ʃ/
|'''x''' /x/
|'''x''' /x/
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|'''z''' /z̠/
|'''z''' /z̠/
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|'''ž''' /ʒ/
|'''ž''' /ʒ/
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|'''c''' /ts̠/
|'''c''' /ts̠/
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|'''č''' /tʃ/
|'''č''' /tʃ/
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| '''r''' /r~ɾ~ʀ/
| '''r''' /r~ɾ~ʀ/
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| '''j''' /j/
| '''j''' /j/
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no initial clusters, max cluster length 2
no initial clusters, max cluster length 2


cluster consonants can be arbitrary as long as voice assimilated
cluster consonants can be arbitrary


Possible vowel final vowels: /ɪ, e, a, ea, o, u, i, y/ (cf TibH /ɔ, ɛ, e, o, i, u/)
Possible vowel final vowels: /ɪ, e, a, ea, o, u, i, y/ (cf TibH /ɔ, ɛ, e, o, i, u/)
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== Script ==
== Script ==
Netagin script is an abugida developed from the Ancient Gwnax script. Before vowel markings were codified, some Netagin writings used the consonant letters as an abjad with letters for ''v j q h'' used as matres lectionis.
The classical Netagin script is a logography. Consonantal roots are represented by semantic or phonosemantic characters. The root characters are inserted into patterns that represent noun and verb templates and their inflected forms.
 
Vowel signs shouldn't rely on the number of dots. I dislike drawing dots lol, I'm looking at you, segol


==Morphology==
==Morphology==
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In Netagin, emphatic subject pronouns are often part of Ancient-Greek style Wackernagel clitic complexes.
In Netagin, emphatic subject pronouns are often part of Ancient-Greek style Wackernagel clitic complexes.
[So far this is not too different from Tigol or Anbirese. The weird part is the morphosyntax.]


===Nouns and adjectives===
===Nouns and adjectives===
NEW DECLENSION
Netagin has two numbers and absolute and construct states (but no gender). Like in Tiberian Hebrew, the construct state may have different shapes from having subtly different stress in older stages. Netagin nouns and adjectives fall into declension classes:
Netagin has two numbers and absolute and construct states (but no gender). Like in Tiberian Hebrew, the construct state may have different shapes from having subtly different stress in older stages. Netagin nouns and adjectives fall into declension classes:
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:'''''"Qaj, laršip ne dáqer rysohe qalok." baruc nė qama.'''''
:'''''"Qaj, laršip ne dáqer rysohe qalok." baruc nė qama.'''''
:/ʔaj ŋɐr'ʃip nɛ 'daʔɛr rɨso'ɦɛ ʔɐ'ŋok ba'ruts nɛə ʔɐma/
:/ʔaj ŋɐr'ʃip nɛ 'daʔɛr rɨso'ɦɛ ʔɐ'ŋok ba'ruts ne ʔɐma/
:MIR me-exceed-he DET.SING son.SING big-ADV already speak-3SG.F DET mother.SING
:MIR me-exceed-he DET.SING son.SING big-ADV already speak-3SG.F DET mother.SING
:("'Behold, the son exceeds me bigly already,' spoke the mother.")
:("'Behold, the son exceeds me bigly already,' spoke the mother.")
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*''kyve'' 'that'
*''kyve'' 'that'
*''be'' (relativizer; roughly 'which VERBs' or 'which is a NOUN'. The head of a relative clause is only allowed to be its subject or direct object in Classical Netagin.)
*''be'' (relativizer; roughly 'which VERBs' or 'which is a NOUN'. The head of a relative clause is only allowed to be its subject or direct object in Classical Netagin.)
*''qe'' (vocative particle)


===Verbs===
===Verbs===
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The independent pronoun is used when using an agent-oriented stem.
The independent pronoun is used when using an agent-oriented stem.
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{| class="wikitable" style="text-align:center;" width=500px
! rowspan=2 | || rowspan=2 | 1sg || rowspan=2 | 2sg || rowspan=2 | 3sg  || colspan=2 | 1pl || rowspan="2" | 2pl || rowspan="2" | 3pl
! || 1sg || 2sg || 3sg  || 1pl || 2pl || 3pl
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! exclusive || inclusive
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! Subject affixes: ''mur'' 'walk (to somewhere)'
! Subject affixes: ''mur'' 'walk (to somewhere)'
| ''mur'''xil''''' 'I walk' || ''mur'''xib'''''  || ''mur'' || ''mur'''šů''''' || ''mur'''šiem''''' || ''mur'''ni''''' || ''mur'''o'''''
| ''mur'''xil''''' 'I walk' || ''mur'''xib'''''  || ''mur'' || ''mur'''šů''''' || ''mur'''ni''''' || ''mur'''o'''''
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! Object affixes: ''tėlal'' 'to know' ''
! Object affixes: ''tėlal'' 'to know' ''
| '''''l'''ytlal-0'' 's/he knows me' || '''''b'''ytlal-0'' || '''''q'''ytlal-0'' || '''''ť'''itlal-0'' || '''''m'''ytlal-0'' || '''''d'''ytlăl'''o''''' || '''''q'''ytlăl'''o'''''
| '''''l'''ytlal-0'' 's/he knows me' || '''''b'''ytlal-0'' || '''''q'''ytlal-0'' || '''''ť'''itlal-0'' || '''''d'''ytlăl'''o''''' || '''''q'''ytlăl'''o'''''
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Irrealis forms always use a regularly determined variant of the agent-oriented stem:
Irrealis forms always use a regularly determined variant of the agent-oriented stem:
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:''Jos vė qama?'' = Where is Mother?
:''Jos vė qama?'' = Where is Mother?
:''Jal ve miešab?'' = What (lit. Who) is your name?
:''Jal ve niešab?'' = What (lit. Who) is your name?


===Translating "to be"===
===Translating "to be"===
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==== Deranked relative clauses ====
==== Deranked relative clauses ====
Netagin also has deranked relative clauses, which uses possessed verbal nouns and mirror similar constructions in Lushootseed (cf. English ''the weapon of your choosing''). The possessor of such a verbal noun is always the patient. This construction must be used exactly when the subject is the head.
Netagin also has deranked relative clauses, which uses possessed verbal nouns and mirror similar constructions in Lushootseed (cf. English ''the weapon of your choosing''). The possessor of such a verbal noun is always the argument marked with ''qy''. This construction must be used exactly when the subject is the head.


ni myzuj bi qylmie viel 'the fruit that I eat' has a deranked relative clause counterpart: ''ni myzuj lamjal'' (DET fruit-3SG eat/VN-1SG.POSS 'the fruit of my eating'); however this means 'the fruit that eats me'.
ni myzuj bi qylmie viel 'the fruit that I eat' has a deranked relative clause counterpart: ''ni myzuj lamjal'' (DET fruit-3SG eat/VN-1SG.POSS 'the fruit of my eating'); however this means 'the fruit that eats me'.
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=== Anthem of Tumhan ===
=== Anthem of Tumhan ===
The lyrics are in LLSLLLSLLL meter (like the Jewish piyyut Yigdal). The theme is self-reliance.
The lyrics are in LLSLLLSLLL meter (like the Jewish piyyut Yigdal). The theme is self-reliance.
(Use a non-neutralized hanier for the tune)
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'''Literary Netagin''' (WIP)
'''Literary Netagin''' (WIP)


''Lėšea dypiekėšů my-xiem teďmaz — ďamzeš myri muršů dyťek bahan.''
1. ''Lėšė dypiekėšů my-xiem teďmaz — ďamzeš myri muršů dyťek bahan.''
''Xabbok lykuzėšů my-jiplėlur — saqůx hyčů kippel qi-ram my-ďhan.''
''Xabbok lykuzėšů my-jiplėlur — saqůx hyčů kippel qi-ram my-ďhan.''
''Bar tansybik haviš qi-riv nozab — rahod ny viťėšů lăqal žihan.''
 
''Vajek ny bakkaneš vy laplėšů — ba kam myhen qanpův ny hėz Tumhan!''
2. ''Bar tansybik haviš qi-riv nozab — rahod ny viťėšů lăqal žihan.''
''Vajek ny bakkaneš vy laplėšů — ba kam myhen qappův ny hėz Tumhan!''
</poem>
</poem>
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Translation (WIP)
Translation (WIP)


Our ancestors stepped in the fertilizing rocks --- the soil which we have walked in out of our cradle of birth.
1. Our ancestors stepped in the fertilizing rocks --- the soil which we have walked in out of our cradle of birth.
 
Our plows dug diligently since we left the low and high places of the animist spirits.
Our plows dug diligently, since we left the low and high places of the animist spirits.
 
For the fount of the mountains and the rains of the skies --- our smithy is the beginning of vigorous growth.


2. For the fount of the mountains and the rains of the skies began the vigorous growth in our garden.
The world has left us raw material --- the people of Tumhan shall not leave it waiting!
The world has left us raw material --- the people of Tumhan shall not leave it waiting!
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