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'''Old Roshterian''' is the reconstructed intermediate stage between [[Proto-Talmic]] and [[Roshterian]]. It was spoken approximately at the same time [[Thensarian]] was spoken.
'''Old Roshterian''' is the reconstructed intermediate stage between [[Talmic languages|Proto-Talmic]] and [[Roshterian]]. It was spoken approximately at the same time [[Thensarian]] was spoken.


*stress shift to penultimate (endings have not dropped completely yet)
**yields Modern Roshterian ultimate stress
*Old Irishy allomorphy
*''ā'' > ''iə''
==Some words==
==Some words==
*φlat-nəm "seed" > Old Roshterian *ḽatnə > laaṉ "child (offspring)"
*φlat-nəm "seed" > Old Roshterian *ḽatnə > laaṉ "child (offspring)"
*tekts "child" > Old Roshterian *tejṱ, tejs- > ṯeit, ṯeis- "child (young human)"
*tekts "child" > Old Roshterian *tejṱ, tejs- > ṯeit, ṯeis- "child (young human)"
*bonditejṱiə, bondejṱiə, bnejṱiə "child-bearer, child-rearer, babysitter" > breit, breiti- "woman"
*bonditejṱiə, bondejṱiə, bnejṱiə "child-bearer, child-rearer, babysitter" > bleit, bleiti- "woman"
*soliθe > OR höḽiṱe "5" > helit, lite-
*soliθe > OR höḽiṱe "5" > helit, lite-
*kabnənts > OR kabrəṋs "woman" > (lost)
*kabnənts > OR kabrəṋs "woman" > (lost)
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*nā > ṋiə "I" > nia
*nā > ṋiə "I" > nia
*som, sam > hum "he"
*som, sam > hum "he"
*sausmam > hauma "moon" > hoom
*sausmam > haufa "moon" > hoof
*sk, st > ść, st > OR sṱ, st > st, s̱ṯ
*sk, st > ść, st > OR sṱ, st > st, s̱ṯ
*Final -r has been deleted in endings
*Final -s, -m, -r had been deleted in endings


==Phonology==
==Phonology==
===Vowels===
===Vowels===
a e i o u ə ö ü ē ī ō ū ȫ ǖ iə uə aj ej öj uj iw
a e i o u ə ö ü ā ē ī ō ū ȫ ǖ iə uə aj ej öj uj iw


ȫ > aa in later Roshterian; aa also emerges from CL
ȫ > aa in later Roshterian; aa also emerges from CL
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The "medial" consonants were retroflex, sje-like or bunched.


===Stress===
===Stress===
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| ''ḽatnai'' || ''ḽatnə'' || ''hēḽatnə''
| ''ḽatnai'' || ''ḽatnə'' || ''hēḽatnə''
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Nouns also have an ''incorporated form'' or an ''incorporandum'', used when the noun is used in noun incorporation.
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===Verbs===
===Verbs===
Verbs have absolute and conjunct stems, much like in Old Irish. With a preverb or an ''incorporandum'' (incorporated noun stem), the conjunct form is used.
The process of attaching preverbs such as prepositions to verbs was productive in Proto-Talmic, which then was repurposed for applicatives and for noun incorporation in Old Roshterian [unlike in Thensarian which took a path more akin to IE languages].
The process of attaching preverbs such as prepositions to verbs was productive in Proto-Talmic, which then was repurposed for applicatives and for noun incorporation in Old Roshterian [unlike in Thensarian which took a path more akin to IE languages].
The forms came from the following stress pattern:
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|+ Verb stress patterns in Pre-Roshterian [immediately after stress shift]
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! style="width: 100px;" | preverb
! |
! style="width: 100px;" | first
!  style="width: 100px;" | ...
!  style="width: 100px;" | penult
!  style="width: 100px;" | final
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! Absolute
| ''-''
! |
| '''secondary''' || unstressed || '''primary''' || unstressed
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! Conjunct
| '''secondary'''
! |
| unstressed || unstressed|| '''primary''' || unstressed
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Handwave: This creates a succession of unstressed syllables in the conjunct form which gets smooshed together in Old Roshterian
Examples:


===Pronouns===
===Pronouns===