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IlL: IlL moved page Verse:Lõis/Vietnamese to Verse:Jarthe/Vietnamese without leaving a redirect

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IlL moved page Verse:Lõis/Vietnamese to Verse:Jarthe/Vietnamese without leaving a redirect

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IlL: /* Sample from Truyện Kiều ({{angbr|Drwị̂n Gî̀w}}) */

2024-10-11T23:43:47Z

Sample from Truyện Kiều ({{angbr|Drwị̂n Gî̀w}})

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	''Djũ thàe djũ mỵing céw là gged njaw.		''Djũ thàe djũ mỵing céw là gged njaw.
	''Drảe gwa mồd gŵ̀g ƀể ddyw,		''Drảe gwa mồd gŵ̀g ƀể ddyw,
	''Njũng đî̀w drywng týi mà đaw ~~đŷ́n~~ làwng.		''Njũng đî̀w drywng týi mà đaw đýn làwng.
	''Lạ jì ƀỉ rhăg thu ffawng,		''Lạ jì ƀỉ rhăg thu ffawng,
	''~~Drŷ̀i~~ saing gwen tóe má hỳwng đáing ggen.		''Dry{{grave}}i saing gwen tóe má hỳwng đáing ggen.
	</poem>		</poem>

IlL: /* Sample from Truyện Kiều ({{angbr|Drwị̂n Gî̀w}}) */

2024-10-11T23:42:55Z

Sample from Truyện Kiều ({{angbr|Drwị̂n Gî̀w}})

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	=== Sample from ''Truyện Kiều'' ({{angbr\|''Drwị̂n Gî̀w''}})===		=== Sample from ''Truyện Kiều'' ({{angbr\|''Drwị̂n Gî̀w''}})===
	<poem>		<poem>
	''~~Dram nam~~ drawng gõe ngû̀i tha,		''Drăm năm drawng gõe ngû̀i tha,
	''Djũ thàe djũ mỵing céw là gged njaw.		''Djũ thàe djũ mỵing céw là gged njaw.
	''Drảe gwa mồd gŵ̀g ƀể ddyw,		''Drảe gwa mồd gŵ̀g ƀể ddyw,
	''Njũng đî̀w drywng týi mà đaw đŷ́n làwng.		''Njũng đî̀w drywng týi mà đaw đŷ́n làwng.
	''Lạ jì ƀỉ ~~rhag~~ thu ffawng,		''Lạ jì ƀỉ rhăg thu ffawng,
	''Drŷ̀i saing gwen tóe má hỳwng đáing ggen.		''Drŷ̀i saing gwen tóe má hỳwng đáing ggen.
	</poem>		</poem>

IlL: /* Rimes */

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Rimes

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	=== Rimes ===		=== Rimes ===
	* The nuclei are:		* The nuclei are:
	** i u w ê ŷ y ô e â a o = i/y ư u ê ơ â ô e a ă o		** i u w ê y y{{breve}} ô e a ă o = i/y ư u ê ơ â ô e a ă o
	** Handwritten {{angbr\|i}} and {{angbr\|j}} are ''never'' dotted. (In our Vietnamese, handwritten {{angbr\|i}} is ''always'' dotted.)		** Handwritten {{angbr\|i}} and {{angbr\|j}} are ''never'' dotted. (In our Vietnamese, handwritten {{angbr\|i}} is ''always'' dotted.)
	** In open syllables â ŷ are written without the circumflex.
	** î û ŵ = ia/iê, ưa/ươ, ua/uô		** î û ŵ = ia/iê, ưa/ươ, ua/uô
	* -m -n -ng -b -d -g are used for the finals -m -n -ng -p -t -c		* -m -n -ng -b -d -g are used for the finals -m -n -ng -p -t -c
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	** îw, ûw, ûi, ŵi = iêu, ươu, ươi, uôi		** îw, ûw, ûi, ŵi = iêu, ươu, ươi, uôi
	** iw, uw, ui, wi = iu, ưu, ưi, ui		** iw, uw, ui, wi = iu, ưu, ưi, ui
	** êw, yw, yi~~, ŷi~~, ôe = êu, âu, ây, ơi, ôi		** êw, yw, y{{breve}}i, yi, ôe = êu, âu, ây, ơi, ôi
	** ew, ao, aw, ae, ai, oe = eo, ao, au, ai, ay, oi		** ew, ao, aw, ae, ai, oe = eo, ao, au, ai, ay, oi
	* Rimes with -nh and -ch finals are written as follows: aing/g, ying/g, ing/g = anh/ch, ênh/ch, inh/ch		* Rimes with -nh and -ch finals are written as follows: aing/g, ying/g, ing/g = anh/ch, ênh/ch, inh/ch

IlL at 12:12, 10 May 2023

2023-05-10T12:12:24Z

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	'''Vietnamese in Lõis''' (''thî́ng Fî̀d'') is essentially the same as in our timeline, but uses a different Romanized orthography developed by a Welsh convert to Catholicism in the 17th century. (We stipulate that ''ph'' already spirantized by that time in Lõis.)		'''Vietnamese in Lõis''' ({{angbr\|''thî́ng Fî̀d''}}) is essentially the same as in our timeline, but uses a different Romanized orthography developed by a Welsh convert to Catholicism in the 17th century. (We stipulate that ''ph'' already spirantized by that time in Lõis.)

	The ''sắc'' tone is called ''bén'' (our timeline's Central and Southern Vietnamese for 'sharp') in Lõis.		The ''sắc'' tone is called ''bén'' (our timeline's Central and Southern Vietnamese for 'sharp') in Lõis.

	== Orthography (''Djũ Gwyg Ngũ'') ==		== Orthography ({{angbr\|''Djũ Gwyg Ngũ''}}) ==
	=== Initials ===		=== Initials ===
	* m n nj ng = m n nh ng		* m n nj ng = m n nh ng
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	* f dd j gg = v d gi g		* f dd j gg = v d gi g
	* l r = l r		* l r = l r
	-w- medial: ''Wîn'' (''Uyên''), ''~~Ngwînб~~'' (''Nguyễn''), ''Fîn'' (''Viên''), ''gwen'' (''quen'')		-w- medial: ''Wîn'' (''Uyên''), ''Ngwî{{tilde}}n'' (''Nguyễn''), ''Fîn'' (''Viên''), ''gwen'' (''quen'')

	The letter ''v'' for /w/ is obsolete. ''k p q v x z'' are not part of the modern alphabet.		The letter ''v'' for /w/ is obsolete. ''k p q v x z'' are not part of the modern alphabet.
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	Tones are written with the same diacritics as in our Vietnamese orthography. However, entering tones are written as ngang and huyền.		Tones are written with the same diacritics as in our Vietnamese orthography. However, entering tones are written as ngang and huyền.

	=== Sample (from ''~~Drwị̂n Gî̀w~~'' / ''~~Truyện Kiều~~'')===		=== Sample from ''Truyện Kiều'' ({{angbr\|''Drwị̂n Gî̀w''}})===
	<poem>		<poem>
	''Dram nam drawng gõe ngû̀i tha,		''Dram nam drawng gõe ngû̀i tha,

IlL at 12:08, 10 May 2023

2023-05-10T12:08:46Z

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	'''Vietnamese in Lõis''' (''~~dî́ng~~ Fî̀d'') is essentially the same as in our timeline, but uses a different Romanized orthography developed by a Welsh convert to Catholicism in the 17th century. (We stipulate that ''ph'' already spirantized by that time in Lõis.)		'''Vietnamese in Lõis''' (''thî́ng Fî̀d'') is essentially the same as in our timeline, but uses a different Romanized orthography developed by a Welsh convert to Catholicism in the 17th century. (We stipulate that ''ph'' already spirantized by that time in Lõis.)

	The ''sắc'' tone is called ''bén'' (our timeline's Central and Southern Vietnamese for 'sharp') in Lõis.		The ''sắc'' tone is called ''bén'' (our timeline's Central and Southern Vietnamese for 'sharp') in Lõis.

IlL: /* Dialectology */

2023-05-10T12:07:23Z

Dialectology

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	== Dialectology ==		== Dialectology ==
	* Some conservative North-Central dialects in Lõis have [r̥] for /ʂ/ (~~{{angbr\|''rh''}};~~ {{angbr\|''s''}} in our timeline's Quốc Ngữ); this is a continuation of /Cr/ clusters which are the native sources of /ʂ/.		* Some conservative North-Central dialects in Lõis have [r̥] for /ʂ/ ({{angbr\|''s''}} in our timeline's Quốc Ngữ); this is a continuation of /Cr/ clusters which are the native sources of /ʂ/.
	* Some Southern dialects merge /ʂ/ with /x/ into [x] (these dialects also merge /ɹ/ and /ɣ/).		* Some Southern dialects merge /ʂ/ with /x/ into [x] (these dialects also merge /ɹ/ and /ɣ/).
	* Some speakers pronounce /t{{den}}/ as [θ], which is an older pronunciation.		* Some speakers pronounce /t{{den}}/ as [θ], which is an older pronunciation.

IlL: /* Dialectology */

2023-05-10T12:06:43Z

Dialectology

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	== Dialectology ==		== Dialectology ==
	* Some conservative North-Central dialects in Lõis have [r̥] for /ʂ/ {{angbr\|''rh''}} ~~(and [r] for /ɹ/~~ {{angbr\|''r''}}); this is a continuation of /Cr/ clusters which are the native sources of /ʂ/.		* Some conservative North-Central dialects in Lõis have [r̥] for /ʂ/ ({{angbr\|''rh''}}; {{angbr\|''s''}} in our timeline's Quốc Ngữ); this is a continuation of /Cr/ clusters which are the native sources of /ʂ/.
	* Some Southern dialects merge /ʂ/ with /x/ into [x] (these dialects also merge /ɹ/ and /ɣ/).		* Some Southern dialects merge /ʂ/ with /x/ into [x] (these dialects also merge /ɹ/ and /ɣ/).
	* Some speakers pronounce /t{{den}}/ as [θ], which is an older pronunciation.		* Some speakers pronounce /t{{den}}/ as [θ], which is an older pronunciation.

IlL at 12:05, 10 May 2023

2023-05-10T12:05:21Z

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	'''Vietnamese in ~~ed Dynje~~''' (''dî́ng Fî̀d'') is essentially the same as in our timeline, but uses a different Romanized orthography developed by a Welsh convert to Catholicism in the 17th century. (We stipulate that ''ph'' already spirantized by that time in ~~ed Dynje~~.)		'''Vietnamese in Lõis''' (''dî́ng Fî̀d'') is essentially the same as in our timeline, but uses a different Romanized orthography developed by a Welsh convert to Catholicism in the 17th century. (We stipulate that ''ph'' already spirantized by that time in Lõis.)

	The ''sắc'' tone is called ''bén'' (our timeline's Central and Southern Vietnamese for 'sharp') in ~~ed Dynje~~.		The ''sắc'' tone is called ''bén'' (our timeline's Central and Southern Vietnamese for 'sharp') in Lõis.

	== Orthography (''Djũ Gwyg Ngũ'') ==		== Orthography (''Djũ Gwyg Ngũ'') ==
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	== Dialectology ==		== Dialectology ==
	* Some conservative North-Central dialects in ~~ed Dynje~~ have [r̥] for /ʂ/ {{angbr\|''rh''}} (and [r] for /ɹ/ {{angbr\|''r''}}); this is a continuation of /Cr/ clusters which are the native sources of /ʂ/.		* Some conservative North-Central dialects in Lõis have [r̥] for /ʂ/ {{angbr\|''rh''}} (and [r] for /ɹ/ {{angbr\|''r''}}); this is a continuation of /Cr/ clusters which are the native sources of /ʂ/.
	* Some Southern dialects merge /ʂ/ with /x/ into [x] (these dialects also merge /ɹ/ and /ɣ/).		* Some Southern dialects merge /ʂ/ with /x/ into [x] (these dialects also merge /ɹ/ and /ɣ/).
	* Some speakers pronounce /t{{den}}/ as [θ], which is an older pronunciation.		* Some speakers pronounce /t{{den}}/ as [θ], which is an older pronunciation.

IlL: IlL moved page Verse:Ed Dynje/Vietnamese to Verse:Lõis/Vietnamese without leaving a redirect

2023-05-10T12:04:05Z

IlL moved page Verse:Ed Dynje/Vietnamese to Verse:Lõis/Vietnamese without leaving a redirect

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