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H. H. P. M. P. Cole: /* Regarding Æ music again */

2025-06-16T03:00:55Z

Regarding Æ music again

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	: Or popular Thean and Qua music can use a "pentamaqam" system (because of speech tone music using 5 pitch levels) [[User:IlL\|IlL]] ([[User talk:IlL\|talk]]) 02:45, 16 June 2025 (UTC)		: Or popular Thean and Qua music can use a "pentamaqam" system (because of speech tone music using 5 pitch levels) [[User:IlL\|IlL]] ([[User talk:IlL\|talk]]) 02:45, 16 June 2025 (UTC)

			:: Interesting ideas. Funny idea: As I have decided that the ''vọj Gjám'', as stated before, is primarily used as a kind of "rejection of the upper classes" mode, there might be an element of ''vọj Gjám'' in Thean popular music though this might be wildly contested or rejected depending on who you ask. By the way, who is Ròdh Xa̱y influenced by? [[User:H. H. P. M. P. Cole\|H. H. P. M. P. Cole]] ([[User talk:H. H. P. M. P. Cole\|talk]]) 03:00, 16 June 2025 (UTC)

IlL: /* Regarding Æ music again */

2025-06-16T02:48:50Z

Regarding Æ music again

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	(Or you could just go the easy route and have Æ music influence the rest of the Theasphere's music but the latter refuses to admit it because of political reasons.) [[User:H. H. P. M. P. Cole\|H. H. P. M. P. Cole]] ([[User talk:H. H. P. M. P. Cole\|talk]]) 01:52, 16 June 2025 (UTC)		(Or you could just go the easy route and have Æ music influence the rest of the Theasphere's music but the latter refuses to admit it because of political reasons.) [[User:H. H. P. M. P. Cole\|H. H. P. M. P. Cole]] ([[User talk:H. H. P. M. P. Cole\|talk]]) 01:52, 16 June 2025 (UTC)

	: I think it's okay for Æ music to differ markedly from that of the rest of the tonal Theasphere, like Hmong music (much of which is speech-tone music) differs from that of the rest of the Sinosphere (Chinese and Vietnamese). All of Timeine 1 Angai Europe can use (fairly low-tech) low-overtone JI, though, given the average tech level I imagine is available to the average person. Also, all of the popular traditions can constitute some kind of rejection of "elitist" music which I can assume is based on Classical Thean music. [[User:IlL\|IlL]] ([[User talk:IlL\|talk]]) 02:23, 16 June 2025 (UTC)		: I think it's okay for Æ music to differ markedly from that of the rest of the tonal Theasphere, like Hmong music (much of which is speech-tone music) differs from that of the rest of the Sinosphere (Chinese and Vietnamese). All of Timeine 1 Angai Europe can use (fairly low-tech) low-overtone JI, though, given the average tech level I imagine is available to the average person. Also, all of the popular traditions can constitute some kind of rejection of "elitist" music which I can assume is based on Classical Thean music. The difference between Æ and Thean music can be because Æ tones are more phonation-based than Thean or Qua ones. [[User:IlL\|IlL]] ([[User talk:IlL\|talk]]) 02:23, 16 June 2025 (UTC)

	: Or popular Thean and Qua music can use a "pentamaqam" system (because of speech tone music using 5 pitch levels) [[User:IlL\|IlL]] ([[User talk:IlL\|talk]]) 02:45, 16 June 2025 (UTC)		: Or popular Thean and Qua music can use a "pentamaqam" system (because of speech tone music using 5 pitch levels) [[User:IlL\|IlL]] ([[User talk:IlL\|talk]]) 02:45, 16 June 2025 (UTC)

IlL: /* Regarding Æ music again */

2025-06-16T02:45:14Z

Regarding Æ music again

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	: I think it's okay for Æ music to differ markedly from that of the rest of the tonal Theasphere, like Hmong music (much of which is speech-tone music) differs from that of the rest of the Sinosphere (Chinese and Vietnamese). All of Timeine 1 Angai Europe can use (fairly low-tech) low-overtone JI, though, given the average tech level I imagine is available to the average person. Also, all of the popular traditions can constitute some kind of rejection of "elitist" music which I can assume is based on Classical Thean music. [[User:IlL\|IlL]] ([[User talk:IlL\|talk]]) 02:23, 16 June 2025 (UTC)		: I think it's okay for Æ music to differ markedly from that of the rest of the tonal Theasphere, like Hmong music (much of which is speech-tone music) differs from that of the rest of the Sinosphere (Chinese and Vietnamese). All of Timeine 1 Angai Europe can use (fairly low-tech) low-overtone JI, though, given the average tech level I imagine is available to the average person. Also, all of the popular traditions can constitute some kind of rejection of "elitist" music which I can assume is based on Classical Thean music. [[User:IlL\|IlL]] ([[User talk:IlL\|talk]]) 02:23, 16 June 2025 (UTC)

			: Or popular Thean and Qua music can use a "pentamaqam" system (because of speech tone music using 5 pitch levels) [[User:IlL\|IlL]] ([[User talk:IlL\|talk]]) 02:45, 16 June 2025 (UTC)

IlL: /* Regarding Æ music again */

2025-06-16T02:33:00Z

Regarding Æ music again

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	(Or you could just go the easy route and have Æ music influence the rest of the Theasphere's music but the latter refuses to admit it because of political reasons.) [[User:H. H. P. M. P. Cole\|H. H. P. M. P. Cole]] ([[User talk:H. H. P. M. P. Cole\|talk]]) 01:52, 16 June 2025 (UTC)		(Or you could just go the easy route and have Æ music influence the rest of the Theasphere's music but the latter refuses to admit it because of political reasons.) [[User:H. H. P. M. P. Cole\|H. H. P. M. P. Cole]] ([[User talk:H. H. P. M. P. Cole\|talk]]) 01:52, 16 June 2025 (UTC)

	: I think it's okay for Æ music to differ markedly from that of the rest of the tonal Theasphere, like Hmong music (much of which is speech-tone music) differs from that of the rest of the Sinosphere (Chinese and Vietnamese). All of Timeine 1 Angai Europe can use (fairly low-tech) low-overtone JI, though, given the average tech level I imagine is available to the average person. Also, all of the popular traditions can constitute some kind of rejection of "elitist" music. [[User:IlL\|IlL]] ([[User talk:IlL\|talk]]) 02:23, 16 June 2025 (UTC)		: I think it's okay for Æ music to differ markedly from that of the rest of the tonal Theasphere, like Hmong music (much of which is speech-tone music) differs from that of the rest of the Sinosphere (Chinese and Vietnamese). All of Timeine 1 Angai Europe can use (fairly low-tech) low-overtone JI, though, given the average tech level I imagine is available to the average person. Also, all of the popular traditions can constitute some kind of rejection of "elitist" music which I can assume is based on Classical Thean music. [[User:IlL\|IlL]] ([[User talk:IlL\|talk]]) 02:23, 16 June 2025 (UTC)

IlL: /* Regarding Æ music again */

2025-06-16T02:32:05Z

Regarding Æ music again

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	(Or you could just go the easy route and have Æ music influence the rest of the Theasphere's music but the latter refuses to admit it because of political reasons.) [[User:H. H. P. M. P. Cole\|H. H. P. M. P. Cole]] ([[User talk:H. H. P. M. P. Cole\|talk]]) 01:52, 16 June 2025 (UTC)		(Or you could just go the easy route and have Æ music influence the rest of the Theasphere's music but the latter refuses to admit it because of political reasons.) [[User:H. H. P. M. P. Cole\|H. H. P. M. P. Cole]] ([[User talk:H. H. P. M. P. Cole\|talk]]) 01:52, 16 June 2025 (UTC)

	: I think it's okay for Æ music to differ markedly from that of the rest of the tonal Theasphere, like Hmong music (much of which is speech-tone music) differs from that of the rest of the Sinosphere (Chinese and Vietnamese). All of Timeine 1 Angai Europe can ~~all~~ use (fairly low-tech) low-overtone JI, though, given the average tech level I imagine is available to the average person. Also, all of the popular traditions can constitute some kind of rejection of "elitist" music. [[User:IlL\|IlL]] ([[User talk:IlL\|talk]]) 02:23, 16 June 2025 (UTC)		: I think it's okay for Æ music to differ markedly from that of the rest of the tonal Theasphere, like Hmong music (much of which is speech-tone music) differs from that of the rest of the Sinosphere (Chinese and Vietnamese). All of Timeine 1 Angai Europe can use (fairly low-tech) low-overtone JI, though, given the average tech level I imagine is available to the average person. Also, all of the popular traditions can constitute some kind of rejection of "elitist" music. [[User:IlL\|IlL]] ([[User talk:IlL\|talk]]) 02:23, 16 June 2025 (UTC)

IlL: /* Regarding Æ music again */

2025-06-16T02:27:59Z

Regarding Æ music again

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	(Or you could just go the easy route and have Æ music influence the rest of the Theasphere's music but the latter refuses to admit it because of political reasons.) [[User:H. H. P. M. P. Cole\|H. H. P. M. P. Cole]] ([[User talk:H. H. P. M. P. Cole\|talk]]) 01:52, 16 June 2025 (UTC)		(Or you could just go the easy route and have Æ music influence the rest of the Theasphere's music but the latter refuses to admit it because of political reasons.) [[User:H. H. P. M. P. Cole\|H. H. P. M. P. Cole]] ([[User talk:H. H. P. M. P. Cole\|talk]]) 01:52, 16 June 2025 (UTC)

	: I think it's okay for Æ music to differ markedly from that of the rest of the tonal Theasphere, like Hmong music (much of which is speech-tone music) differs from that of the rest of the Sinosphere (Chinese and Vietnamese). All of Timeine 1 Angai Europe can all use (fairly low-tech) low-overtone JI, though, given the average tech level I imagine is available to the average person. [[User:IlL\|IlL]] ([[User talk:IlL\|talk]]) 02:23, 16 June 2025 (UTC)		: I think it's okay for Æ music to differ markedly from that of the rest of the tonal Theasphere, like Hmong music (much of which is speech-tone music) differs from that of the rest of the Sinosphere (Chinese and Vietnamese). All of Timeine 1 Angai Europe can all use (fairly low-tech) low-overtone JI, though, given the average tech level I imagine is available to the average person. Also, all of the popular traditions can constitute some kind of rejection of "elitist" music. [[User:IlL\|IlL]] ([[User talk:IlL\|talk]]) 02:23, 16 June 2025 (UTC)

IlL: /* Regarding Æ music again */

2025-06-16T02:24:20Z

Regarding Æ music again

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	(Or you could just go the easy route and have Æ music influence the rest of the Theasphere's music but the latter refuses to admit it because of political reasons.) [[User:H. H. P. M. P. Cole\|H. H. P. M. P. Cole]] ([[User talk:H. H. P. M. P. Cole\|talk]]) 01:52, 16 June 2025 (UTC)		(Or you could just go the easy route and have Æ music influence the rest of the Theasphere's music but the latter refuses to admit it because of political reasons.) [[User:H. H. P. M. P. Cole\|H. H. P. M. P. Cole]] ([[User talk:H. H. P. M. P. Cole\|talk]]) 01:52, 16 June 2025 (UTC)

	: I think it's okay for Æ music to differ markedly from that of the rest of the tonal Theasphere, like Hmong music (much of which is speech-tone music) differs from that of the rest of the Sinosphere (Chinese and Vietnamese). All of Timeine 1 Angai Europe can all use (fairly low-tech) low-overtone JI, though, given the average tech level I imagine is available to the average person ~~I imagine~~. [[User:IlL\|IlL]] ([[User talk:IlL\|talk]]) 02:23, 16 June 2025 (UTC)		: I think it's okay for Æ music to differ markedly from that of the rest of the tonal Theasphere, like Hmong music (much of which is speech-tone music) differs from that of the rest of the Sinosphere (Chinese and Vietnamese). All of Timeine 1 Angai Europe can all use (fairly low-tech) low-overtone JI, though, given the average tech level I imagine is available to the average person. [[User:IlL\|IlL]] ([[User talk:IlL\|talk]]) 02:23, 16 June 2025 (UTC)

IlL: /* Regarding Æ music again */

2025-06-16T02:24:02Z

Regarding Æ music again

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	(Or you could just go the easy route and have Æ music influence the rest of the Theasphere's music but the latter refuses to admit it because of political reasons.) [[User:H. H. P. M. P. Cole\|H. H. P. M. P. Cole]] ([[User talk:H. H. P. M. P. Cole\|talk]]) 01:52, 16 June 2025 (UTC)		(Or you could just go the easy route and have Æ music influence the rest of the Theasphere's music but the latter refuses to admit it because of political reasons.) [[User:H. H. P. M. P. Cole\|H. H. P. M. P. Cole]] ([[User talk:H. H. P. M. P. Cole\|talk]]) 01:52, 16 June 2025 (UTC)

	: I think it's okay for Æ music to differ markedly from that of the rest of the tonal Theasphere, like Hmong music (speech-tone music) differs from that of the rest of the Sinosphere (Chinese and Vietnamese). All of Timeine 1 Angai Europe can all use (fairly low-tech) low-overtone JI, though, given the average tech level I imagine is available to the average person I imagine. [[User:IlL\|IlL]] ([[User talk:IlL\|talk]]) 02:23, 16 June 2025 (UTC)		: I think it's okay for Æ music to differ markedly from that of the rest of the tonal Theasphere, like Hmong music (much of which is speech-tone music) differs from that of the rest of the Sinosphere (Chinese and Vietnamese). All of Timeine 1 Angai Europe can all use (fairly low-tech) low-overtone JI, though, given the average tech level I imagine is available to the average person I imagine. [[User:IlL\|IlL]] ([[User talk:IlL\|talk]]) 02:23, 16 June 2025 (UTC)

IlL: /* Regarding Æ music again */

2025-06-16T02:23:48Z

Regarding Æ music again

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	(Or you could just go the easy route and have Æ music influence the rest of the Theasphere's music but the latter refuses to admit it because of political reasons.) [[User:H. H. P. M. P. Cole\|H. H. P. M. P. Cole]] ([[User talk:H. H. P. M. P. Cole\|talk]]) 01:52, 16 June 2025 (UTC)		(Or you could just go the easy route and have Æ music influence the rest of the Theasphere's music but the latter refuses to admit it because of political reasons.) [[User:H. H. P. M. P. Cole\|H. H. P. M. P. Cole]] ([[User talk:H. H. P. M. P. Cole\|talk]]) 01:52, 16 June 2025 (UTC)

			: I think it's okay for Æ music to differ markedly from that of the rest of the tonal Theasphere, like Hmong music (speech-tone music) differs from that of the rest of the Sinosphere (Chinese and Vietnamese). All of Timeine 1 Angai Europe can all use (fairly low-tech) low-overtone JI, though, given the average tech level I imagine is available to the average person I imagine. [[User:IlL\|IlL]] ([[User talk:IlL\|talk]]) 02:23, 16 June 2025 (UTC)

H. H. P. M. P. Cole: /* Regarding Æ music again */ new section

2025-06-16T01:52:30Z

Regarding Æ music again: new section

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	**** Gotcha [[User:IlL\|IlL]] ([[User talk:IlL\|talk]]) 06:41, 13 June 2025 (UTC)		**** Gotcha [[User:IlL\|IlL]] ([[User talk:IlL\|talk]]) 06:41, 13 June 2025 (UTC)

			== Regarding Æ music again ==

			Firstly, I want to say sorry for bothering you so often on the topic of Angai as you have been working on it.

			However, I would like to propose that you work on Theasphere music so that we can work out the dynamics between Æ and Theasphere music, as currently Æ music seems to be working in a vacuum, and no musical culture as far as I know exists solely in a vacuum.

			(Or you could just go the easy route and have Æ music influence the rest of the Theasphere's music but the latter refuses to admit it because of political reasons.) [[User:H. H. P. M. P. Cole\|H. H. P. M. P. Cole]] ([[User talk:H. H. P. M. P. Cole\|talk]]) 01:52, 16 June 2025 (UTC)

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	(Or you could just go the easy route and have Æ music influence the rest of the Theasphere's music but the latter refuses to admit it because of political reasons.) [[User:H. H. P. M. P. Cole\|H. H. P. M. P. Cole]] ([[User talk:H. H. P. M. P. Cole\|talk]]) 01:52, 16 June 2025 (UTC)		(Or you could just go the easy route and have Æ music influence the rest of the Theasphere's music but the latter refuses to admit it because of political reasons.) [[User:H. H. P. M. P. Cole\|H. H. P. M. P. Cole]] ([[User talk:H. H. P. M. P. Cole\|talk]]) 01:52, 16 June 2025 (UTC)

	: I think it's okay for Æ music to differ markedly from that of the rest of the tonal Theasphere, like Hmong music (much of which is speech-tone music) differs from that of the rest of the Sinosphere (Chinese and Vietnamese). All of Timeine 1 Angai Europe can use (fairly low-tech) low-overtone JI, though, given the average tech level I imagine is available to the average person. Also, all of the popular traditions can constitute some kind of rejection of "elitist" music which I can assume is based on Classical Thean music. [[User:IlL\|IlL]] ([[User talk:IlL\|talk]]) 02:23, 16 June 2025 (UTC)		: I think it's okay for Æ music to differ markedly from that of the rest of the tonal Theasphere, like Hmong music (much of which is speech-tone music) differs from that of the rest of the Sinosphere (Chinese and Vietnamese). All of Timeine 1 Angai Europe can use (fairly low-tech) low-overtone JI, though, given the average tech level I imagine is available to the average person. Also, all of the popular traditions can constitute some kind of rejection of "elitist" music which I can assume is based on Classical Thean music. The difference between Æ and Thean music can be because Æ tones are more phonation-based than Thean or Qua ones. [[User:IlL\|IlL]] ([[User talk:IlL\|talk]]) 02:23, 16 June 2025 (UTC)

	: Or popular Thean and Qua music can use a "pentamaqam" system (because of speech tone music using 5 pitch levels) [[User:IlL\|IlL]] ([[User talk:IlL\|talk]]) 02:45, 16 June 2025 (UTC)		: Or popular Thean and Qua music can use a "pentamaqam" system (because of speech tone music using 5 pitch levels) [[User:IlL\|IlL]] ([[User talk:IlL\|talk]]) 02:45, 16 June 2025 (UTC)