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Juhhmi: /* Set six */

2015-06-29T22:06:31Z

Set six

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	*In avoidance speech: Originally consonants t, p and k all plain (no ejective, aspiration or spirantization in any position) which were turned into linguolabials (upper), neutral, palatalized and velarized respectively		*In avoidance speech: Originally consonants t, p and k all plain (no ejective, aspiration or spirantization in any position) which were turned into linguolabials (upper), neutral, palatalized and velarized respectively
	**> neutral, high and low tone in the preceding vowel (or in the following!?) with neutral linguolabial following		**> neutral, high and low tone in the preceding vowel (or in the following!?) with neutral linguolabial following
	**.àeí /ˈɶk'.øtʰ.yɸ/ > /ˈɶk.øt.yp/ > /ˈɶˠt̼ˠ.øt̼.yʲt̼ʲ/ > /ˈɶt̼˩.øt̼.yt̼˥/ (thus the diacritics match nicely). To avoid confusion between some words, final consonant may be a lower linguolabial double flap (? tongue pulled over lower lip from outside to the inner side and pulled in as a click)		**(round) :àeí /ˈɶk'.øtʰ.yɸ/ > /ˈɶk.øt.yp/ > /ˈɶˠt̼ˠ.øt̼.yʲt̼ʲ/ > /ˈɶt̼˩.øt̼.yt̼˥/ (thus the diacritics match nicely). To avoid confusion between some words, final consonant may be a lower linguolabial double flap (? tongue pulled over lower lip from outside to the inner side and pulled in as a click)

	====Set seven====		====Set seven====

Juhhmi: /* Set six */

2015-06-29T22:05:26Z

Set six

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	*In avoidance speech: Originally consonants t, p and k all plain (no ejective, aspiration or spirantization in any position) which were turned into linguolabials (upper), neutral, palatalized and velarized respectively		*In avoidance speech: Originally consonants t, p and k all plain (no ejective, aspiration or spirantization in any position) which were turned into linguolabials (upper), neutral, palatalized and velarized respectively
	**> neutral, high and low tone in the preceding vowel (or in the following!?) with neutral linguolabial following		**> neutral, high and low tone in the preceding vowel (or in the following!?) with neutral linguolabial following
	**:àeí /ˈɶk'.øtʰ.yɸ/ > /ˈɶk.øt.yp/ > /ˈɶˠt̼ˠ.øt̼.yʲt̼ʲ/ > /ˈɶt̼˩.øt̼.yt̼˥/ (thus the diacritics match nicely). To avoid confusion between some words, final consonant may be a lower linguolabial double flap (? tongue pulled over lower lip from outside to the inner side and pulled in as a click)		**.àeí /ˈɶk'.øtʰ.yɸ/ > /ˈɶk.øt.yp/ > /ˈɶˠt̼ˠ.øt̼.yʲt̼ʲ/ > /ˈɶt̼˩.øt̼.yt̼˥/ (thus the diacritics match nicely). To avoid confusion between some words, final consonant may be a lower linguolabial double flap (? tongue pulled over lower lip from outside to the inner side and pulled in as a click)

	====Set seven====		====Set seven====

Juhhmi: /* Set seven */

2015-04-18T11:52:09Z

Set seven

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	**> neutral, high and low tone in the preceding vowel (or in the following!?) with neutral linguolabial following		**> neutral, high and low tone in the preceding vowel (or in the following!?) with neutral linguolabial following
	**:àeí /ˈɶk'.øtʰ.yɸ/ > /ˈɶk.øt.yp/ > /ˈɶˠt̼ˠ.øt̼.yʲt̼ʲ/ > /ˈɶt̼˩.øt̼.yt̼˥/ (thus the diacritics match nicely). To avoid confusion between some words, final consonant may be a lower linguolabial double flap (? tongue pulled over lower lip from outside to the inner side and pulled in as a click)		**:àeí /ˈɶk'.øtʰ.yɸ/ > /ˈɶk.øt.yp/ > /ˈɶˠt̼ˠ.øt̼.yʲt̼ʲ/ > /ˈɶt̼˩.øt̼.yt̼˥/ (thus the diacritics match nicely). To avoid confusion between some words, final consonant may be a lower linguolabial double flap (? tongue pulled over lower lip from outside to the inner side and pulled in as a click)

			====Set seven====

			*mibe>ḿ̩be & mube>m̩̀be (tone)

	===Tones===		===Tones===

Juhhmi: /* Set five */

2015-02-25T15:22:15Z

Set five

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	**language relative where e remained > completely different		**language relative where e remained > completely different
	*C [voiced stop] > C [voiceless counterpart] (no distinction orignally? happened in the last stages of the following...)		*C [voiced stop] > C [voiceless counterpart] (no distinction orignally? happened in the last stages of the following...)
	*bnV > bɾ̃Ṽ > prV<sub>2</sub> /_# or prV<sub>2</sub>N /_C (e.g. bnada > pronta) > frV > fV̰ (thus r-ligature > creaky-indicator)		*bnV > bɾ̃Ṽ > prV<sub>2</sub> /_# or prV<sub>2</sub>N /_C (e.g. bnada > pronta)
			**somewhere > frV > fV̰ (thus r-ligature > creaky-indicator)
			** or > pVrV with duplicated vowel
	*dmV > dw̃Ṽ > tʷV<sub>2</sub> /_# or tʷV<sub>2</sub>N /_C		*dmV > dw̃Ṽ > tʷV<sub>2</sub> /_# or tʷV<sub>2</sub>N /_C
	*gnV > gɾ̃Ṽ > krV<sub>2</sub> /_# or krV<sub>2</sub>N /_C		*gnV > gɾ̃Ṽ > krV<sub>2</sub> /_# or krV<sub>2</sub>N /_C
	*gmV > g͡bṼ > kʷV<sub>2</sub> /_# or kʷV<sub>2</sub>N /_C		*gmV > g͡bṼ > kʷV<sub>2</sub> /_# or kʷV<sub>2</sub>N /_C
	*ã & ũ > ɔ; ĩ > y; ẽ > y /C[labial]_		*ã & ũ > ɔ; ĩ > y; ẽ > y /C[labial]_ otherwise >e
	*later V > V: / _NC		*later V > V: / _NC when N > ∅ /_C
	*somewhere kʷ > k̠, i>e, y>i		*somewhere kʷ > k̠ (phonemic difference to k), i>e, y>i

	Long separation: *ˌgadʉˈme >		Long separation: *ˌgadʉˈme >
	*relative language: jaɾum > jɔɻum (could this be the language of my glagoliticish script? There was a distinction between voiced and voiceless, though. Should also check how the CVM and CVR syllables formed.)		*relative language: jaɾum > jɔɻum (could this be the language of my glagoliticish script? There was a distinction between voiced and voiceless, though. Should also check how the CVM and CVR syllables could have formed.)
	*gadme (stress ˈme>ˈdme) > gaˈdw̃ẽ > katʷy > kaɕy (through medial stage θ?)		*gadme (stress ˈme>ˈdme) > gaˈdw̃ẽ > katʷy > kaɕy (through medial stage θ?)

Juhhmi: /* Script */

2015-02-25T15:05:47Z

Script

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	***lainaa ja kirjaimiii naapureilt ni saat hauskoi juttui... eixni!		***lainaa ja kirjaimiii naapureilt ni saat hauskoi juttui... eixni!
	***nää versiot alkaa kyl näyttää aika päheilt! vähäx siistii sit ku mä löyvän aikaa kalligrafioinnil!		***nää versiot alkaa kyl näyttää aika päheilt! vähäx siistii sit ku mä löyvän aikaa kalligrafioinnil!
			*should make it digital
			*Language test: ceusutam! patirkomda gacuter [t͡ɕøy̯ʃ̩ʷˈtɑm pɑtelkɔlˈlɑ ɣɑt͡ɕuˈtɛɻ](greeting-s! patirko(m?)-from warm-ly); cikerkor [t͡ɕykɛlˈkɔɻ] (... post stamp)

	===Icefolk===		===Icefolk===

Juhhmi: /* Set six */

2015-02-25T14:31:24Z

Set six

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	Related to my [[User:Juhhmi/Aei\|Aei]]:		Related to my [[User:Juhhmi/Aei\|Aei]]:
	*In avoidance speech: Originally consonants t, p and k all plain (no ejective, aspiration or spirantization in any position) which were turned into linguolabials, neutral, palatalized and velarized respectively		*In avoidance speech: Originally consonants t, p and k all plain (no ejective, aspiration or spirantization in any position) which were turned into linguolabials (upper), neutral, palatalized and velarized respectively
	**> neutral, high and low tone in the preceding vowel (or in the following!?) with neutral linguolabial following		**> neutral, high and low tone in the preceding vowel (or in the following!?) with neutral linguolabial following
	**:àeí /ˈɶk'.øtʰ.yɸ/ > /ˈɶk.øt.yp/ > /ˈɶˠt̼ˠ.øt̼.yʲt̼ʲ/ > /ˈɶt̼˩.øt̼.yt̼˥/ (thus the diacritics match nicely)		**:àeí /ˈɶk'.øtʰ.yɸ/ > /ˈɶk.øt.yp/ > /ˈɶˠt̼ˠ.øt̼.yʲt̼ʲ/ > /ˈɶt̼˩.øt̼.yt̼˥/ (thus the diacritics match nicely). To avoid confusion between some words, final consonant may be a lower linguolabial double flap (? tongue pulled over lower lip from outside to the inner side and pulled in as a click)

	===Tones===		===Tones===

Juhhmi: /* Set five */ (and six)

2015-02-25T13:08:35Z

Set five: (and six)

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 ====Set four====
-One language where original remained, some where changed
+One language where original remained (in some cases), some where changed completely
 *ʈ
 **> ʈ͡ʂ > t͡ʃ
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 **> d͡ʒ
 **> l̠ʲ (& *d>ɾ~ɹ)
 ===Tones===

Juhhmi: /* Ideas */

2015-02-21T17:08:08Z

Ideas

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	***nää versiot alkaa kyl näyttää aika päheilt! vähäx siistii sit ku mä löyvän aikaa kalligrafioinnil!		***nää versiot alkaa kyl näyttää aika päheilt! vähäx siistii sit ku mä löyvän aikaa kalligrafioinnil!

	===~~Culture~~===
			===Icefolk===

			The Icefolk sacred literature language Ghitarqapö (?) was an infixing one and of different origin than their spoken language Thernakh (which had a cursive Bakurt script). During the eras before their disappearance, the Icefolk were not willing to teach their written language to humans due to the unpleasant history so no translations of Icefolk texts had survived. Apparently, the teaching of Ghitarqapö was intensively oral since no Ghitarqapö pages with Bakurt transcription have been found.

			What Spellmaster Guenkue discovered during her expedition to Scriptorium:
			*lots of consonants and some phonation features based on their gorilla/bear physiology (they wouldn't have liked this classification)
			*verb-based
			*noun infixes from different roots than independent noun-verbs
			*diliteral radicals
			**when infixing, the second consonant may be modified to convey grammatical information


			Script: logographic-syllabary mix
			*Separate graphemes for:
			**base C<sub>1</sub>C<sub>2</sub>
			**broken C<sub>1</sub>(infix)C<sub>2</sub>
			**Differences in vowels matter but glyphs of C<sub>1</sub>V<sub>1</sub> and C<sub>1</sub>V<sub>2</sub> or C<sub>2a</sub>V and C<sub>2b</sub>V may have little in common
			*Calligraphic variation (monumental/frozen/hand-written)
			**The Hall of Prayers has an icicle roof which from some angles can be read as sacred poems

Juhhmi: /* Set four */

2015-02-09T16:18:44Z

Set four

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	====Set four====		====Set four====

	*ʈ > ʈ͡ʂ		One language where original remained, some where changed
	*ɖ > l̠ʲ		*ʈ
			**> ʈ͡ʂ > t͡ʃ
			*t̠ (vs. t>t̪)
			*ɖ
			**> d͡ʒ
			*> l̠ʲ (& d>ɾ~ɹ)

	===Tones===		===Tones===

Juhhmi: /* Set three */

2015-02-09T07:51:51Z

Set three

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	*kʷ>ʋ		*kʷ>ʋ
	**modern native orthography uses different symbol for kʷ and pʷ (ku-pu ligatures)		**modern native orthography uses different symbol for kʷ and pʷ (ku-pu ligatures)

			====Set four====

			*ʈ > ʈ͡ʂ
			*ɖ > l̠ʲ

	===Tones===		===Tones===