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	\|name= Old Ravenish		\|name= Old Ravenish
	\|nativename=''~~þýdskó~~''		\|nativename=''þýdsko''
	\|pronunciation= θyːð.~~ʃoː~~		\|pronunciation= θyːð.ʃo
	\|pronunciation_key = w:International Phonetic Alphabet chart		\|pronunciation_key = w:International Phonetic Alphabet chart
	\|creator=[[User:Wfeozawra\|wfosøra]]		\|creator=[[User:Wfeozawra\|wfosøra]]
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	This is the current version of tiudisko, I have copied the outdated page to here and will be updating it.		This is the current version of tiudisko, I have copied the outdated page to here and will be updating it.

	'''Ravenish''' ([[w:endonym\|autoglossonym]]: ''þýdsko; <small>Ravenish: [[w:ipa chart\|[θyːð.~~ʃoː~~]]]</small>) is a [[w:Germanic language\|Germanic language]].		'''Ravenish''' ([[w:endonym\|autoglossonym]]: ''þýdsko; <small>Ravenish: [[w:ipa chart\|[θyːð.ʃo]]]</small>) is a [[w:Germanic language\|Germanic language]].

	==Etymology==		==Etymology==

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{{privatelang}}
{{Infobox language
|image= Ravenish flag.png
|imagesize= 250px
|name= Old Ravenish
|nativename=''þýdskó''
|pronunciation= θyːð.ʃoː
|pronunciation_key = w:International Phonetic Alphabet chart
|creator=[[User:Wfeozawra|wfosøra]]
|fam1=Indo-European
|fam2=Germanic
|fam3=[[Proto-Ravenish]]
|script1= Latn
|ancestor= [[Proto-Ravenish]] (Sparsely attested)
|familycolor=indo-european
|cws=MCORV
|-
|notice=IPA
}}

This is the current version of tiudisko, I have copied the outdated page to here and will be updating it.

'''Ravenish''' ([[w:endonym|autoglossonym]]: ''þýdsko; Ravenish: [[w:ipa chart|[θyːð.ʃoː]]]) is a [[w:Germanic language|Germanic language]].

==Etymology==
The language name derives from the same source as German [[wikt:Deutsch|Deutsch]], [[wikt:Reconstruction:Proto-Germanic/þiudiskaz|þiudiskaz]]. The English name is in reference to a cultural aspect of the people, their unusually large reverence for Ravens, they place an oddly high importance on Ravens even for a Germanic tribe.

==Phonology==
===Orthography===
===Consonants===
Consonants have remained relatively close to Proto-Germanic, except for the few stops that had fricative allophones, these shifted fully to fricatives, the opposite of all other Germanic langs, the Velar fricatives also shifted to Uvular.
{| class="wikitable" style="text-align: center;"
|+ Consonant phonemes
|-
!
! colspan="2" | [[w:Labial consonant|Labial]]
! colspan="2" | [[w:Dental consonant|Dental]]
! colspan="2" | [[w:Alveolar consonant|alveolar]]
! colspan="2" | [[w:post-Alveolar consonant|post- alveolar]]
! colspan="2" | [[w:Palatal consonant|palatal]]
! colspan="2" | [[w:Velar consonant|velar]]
|-
! [[w:Nasal consonant|Nasal]]
| style="border-right: 0;" | || style="border-left: 0;" | [[w:Voiced bilabial nasal|m]]
| style="border-right: 0;" | || style="border-left: 0;" |
| style="border-right: 0;" | || style="border-left: 0;" | [[w:Voiced alveolar nasal|n]]
| style="border-right: 0;" | || style="border-left: 0;" |
| style="border-right: 0;" | || style="border-left: 0;" |
| style="border-right: 0;" | || style="border-left: 0;" | ([[w:Voiced velar nasal|ŋ]])¹
|-
! [[w:stop consonant|Stop]]
| style="border-right: 0;" | [[w:Voiceless bilabial stop|p]] || style="border-left: 0;" |
| style="border-right: 0;" | || style="border-left: 0;" |
| style="border-right: 0;" | [[w:Voiceless alveolar stop|t]] || style="border-left: 0;" |
| style="border-right: 0;" | || style="border-left: 0;" |
| style="border-right: 0;" | || style="border-left: 0;" |
| style="border-right: 0;" | [[w:Voiceless velar stop|k]] || style="border-left: 0;" |
|-
! [[w:fricative consonant|Fricative]]
| style="border-right: 0;" | [[w:Voiceless labiodental fricative|f]] || style="border-left: 0;" | [[w:Voiced labiodental fricative|v]]
| style="border-right: 0;" | [[w:Voiceless dental fricative|θ]] || style="border-left: 0;" | [[w:Voiced dental fricative|ð]]
| style="border-right: 0;" | [[w:Voiceless alveolar sibilant|s]] || style="border-left: 0;" |
| style="border-right: 0;" | [[w:Voiceless postalveolar fricative|ʃ]] || style="border-left: 0;" |
| style="border-right: 0;" | || style="border-left: 0;" |
| style="border-right: 0;" | [[w:Voiceless velar fricative|x]] || style="border-left: 0;" | [[w:Voiced velar fricative|ɣ]]
|-
! [[w:Approximant consonant|Approximant]]
| style="border-right: 0;" | || style="border-left: 0;" | [[w:Voiced labiodental approximant|ʋ]]
| style="border-right: 0;" | || style="border-left: 0;" |
| style="border-right: 0;" | [[w:Voiceless alveolar lateral approximant|l̥]] || style="border-left: 0;" | [[w:Voiced alveolar lateral approximant|l]]
| style="border-right: 0;" | || style="border-left: 0;" |
| style="border-right: 0;" | || style="border-left: 0;" | [[w:Voiced palatal approximant|j]]
| style="border-right: 0;" | || style="border-left: 0;" |
|-
! [[w:Trill consonant|Trill]]
| style="border-right: 0;" | || style="border-left: 0;" |
| style="border-right: 0;" | || style="border-left: 0;" |
| style="border-right: 0;" | [[w:Voiceless alveolar trill|r̥]] || style="border-left: 0;" | [[w:Voiced alveolar trill|r]]
| style="border-right: 0;" | || style="border-left: 0;" |
| style="border-right: 0;" | || style="border-left: 0;" |
| style="border-right: 0;" | || style="border-left: 0;" |
|}

# allophone of /n/ before /k/
# allophone of /n/ before /kʷ/
# allophone of /s/ before velars and at word ends
# allophone of /z/ before velars and at word ends, in modern colloquial forms this has roticized to /r/

===Vowels===
Vowels divert from PG more than the consonants, they've shifted closer to Finnish, also gaining harmony from Finnish.

{| class="wikitable" style="text-align: center;"
|+ Vowel phonemes
|-
!
! colspan="8" | [[w:Front vowel|Front]]
! rowspan=2 colspan="8" | [[w:Back vowel|Back]]
|-
!
! colspan="4" | [[w:unrounded vowel|unrounded]]
! colspan="4" | [[w:rounded vowel|rounded]]
|-
!
! colspan="2" | [[w:short vowel|short]]
! colspan="2" | [[w:long vowel|long]]
! colspan="2" | [[w:short vowel|short]]
! colspan="2" | [[w:long vowel|long]]
! colspan="2" | [[w:short vowel|short]]
! colspan="2" | [[w:long vowel|long]]
|-
! [[w:Close vowel|Close]]
| style="border-right: 0;" | [[w:Close front unrounded vowel|i]] || style="border-left: 0;" |
| style="border-right: 0;" | [[w:Close front unrounded vowel|iː]] || style="border-left: 0;" |
| style="border-right: 0;" | [[w:Close front rounded vowel|y]] || style="border-left: 0;" |
| style="border-right: 0;" | [[w:Close front rounded vowel|yː]] || style="border-left: 0;" |
| style="border-right: 0;" | [[w:Close back rounded vowel|u]] || style="border-left: 0;" |
| style="border-right: 0;" | [[w:Close back rounded vowel|uː]] || style="border-left: 0;" |
|-
! [[w:mid vowel|mid]]
| style="border-right: 0;" | [[w:Close-mid front unrounded vowel|e]] || style="border-left: 0;" |
| style="border-right: 0;" | [[w:Close-mid front unrounded vowel|eː]] || style="border-left: 0;" |
| style="border-right: 0;" | [[w:Close-mid front rounded vowel|ø]] || style="border-left: 0;" |
| style="border-right: 0;" | [[w:Close-mid front rounded vowel|øː]] || style="border-left: 0;" |
| style="border-right: 0;" | [[w:Close-mid back rounded vowel|o]] || style="border-left: 0;" |
| style="border-right: 0;" | [[w:Close-mid back rounded vowel|oː]] || style="border-left: 0;" |
|-
! [[w:open-mid vowel|open-mid]]
| style="border-right: 0;" | [[w:open-mid front unrounded vowel|ɛ]] || style="border-left: 0;" |
| style="border-right: 0;" | [[w:open-mid front unrounded vowel|ɛː]] || style="border-left: 0;" |
| style="border-right: 0;" | [[w:open-mid front rounded vowel|œ]] || style="border-left: 0;" |
| style="border-right: 0;" | || style="border-left: 0;" |
| style="border-right: 0;" | [[w:open-mid back rounded vowel|ɔ]] || style="border-left: 0;" |
| style="border-right: 0;" | [[w:open-mid back rounded vowel|ɔː]] || style="border-left: 0;" |
|-
! [[w:Open vowel|Open]]
| style="border-right: 0;" | || style="border-left: 0;" |
| style="border-right: 0;" | || style="border-left: 0;" |
| style="border-right: 0;" | || style="border-left: 0;" |
| style="border-right: 0;" | || style="border-left: 0;" |
| style="border-right: 0;" | [[w:Open back unrounded vowel|ɑ]] || style="border-left: 0;" |
| style="border-right: 0;" | [[w:Open back unrounded vowel|ɑː]] || style="border-left: 0;" |
|-
|}

====Diphthongs====

===Prosody===
====Stress====
Stress, like in PG, still lies solely on the first syllable unless prefixed, where stress moves with the root word.
====Intonation====

===Phonotactics===

===Morphophonology===
==Morphology==
Take '''''ALL''''' forms with '?' with caution, the proto-Germanic form is unknown so this is me doing very, VERY basic comparisons to figure out a '''Possible''' form.
===Pronouns===
needs updating
{| class="wikitable" style="text-align: center;"
|+ personal pronouns
|-
! colspan=3 | !! Nominative !! Accusative !! Genitive !! Dative
|-
! rowspan=3 | [[wikt:Appendix:Glossary#first person|first person]] !! colspan=2 | singular
| {{term|ik}} || mik || mïïnäz || miz
|- valign="top"
! colspan=2 valign="middle" | dual
| wit || unk || unkëraz || unkiz
|-
! colspan=2 valign="middle" | plural
| wiz || uns || unsëraz || unsiz
|-
! rowspan=3 | [[wikt:Appendix:Glossary#second person|second person]] !! colspan=2 | singular
| þuu || þik || þïïnäz || þiz
|-
! colspan=2 | dual
| jut || ïnkw || ïnkweräz || ïnkwiz
|-
! colspan=2 | plural
| juuz || izwiz || izweräz || izwiz
|-
! rowspan=6 | [[wikt:Appendix:Glossary#third person|third person]] !! rowspan=3 | singular !! masculine
| iz || ïnön || es || ïmmäi
|-
! feminine
| sii || iijon || ezäz || ezöi
|-
! neuter
| it || it || es || ïmmäi
|-
! rowspan=3 | plural !! masculine
| iiz || ïnz || ezöön || ïmäz
|-
! feminine
| ijääz || ijaaz || ezöön || ïmäz
|-
! neuter
| ijo || ijo || ezöön || ïmäz
|-
! rowspan=1 colspan=3 | reflexive
| se || sik || sïïnäz || siz
|-
|}

[[Category:þiudiskon]] <noinclude>[[Category:þiudiskon templates]]</noinclude>

===Nouns===
Stems are named in accordance with their PG equivalent.
====a stems====
====ō stems====
====ī/jō stems====
====i stems====
====u stems====
====an stems====
====ōn stems====
====īn stems====
====r stems====
====z stems====
====Root nouns and consonant stems====

===Verbs===
===Adjectives and Determiners===
===Adverbs===
===Numbers===

==Syntax==
===Constituent order===
The word order is mostly free, the base order is SOV, but this is subject to change when importance needs to be stressed on one word.

===Noun phrase===
===Verb phrase===
===Sentence phrase===
===Dependent clauses===
==Example texts==
==Other resources==
* [[Old Ravenish/Swadesh|Swadesh]]
* [[Old Ravenish/Phrasebook|Phrases]]
* [[:Category:Old Ravenish lemmas|lemmas]]

[[Category:Old Ravenish]]
[[Category:Languages]]
[[Category:Conlangs]]

Old Ravenish - Revision history

Melinoë at 08:42, 16 December 2024